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Headlamp Adapter Rings

Mr Gazza

Mr Gazza

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Almost a year on from the original prototype, I now have a batch of adapters for sale!
These are now well proven and a worthwhile hop up for Monsters with a round Bosch headlamp.
They allow the fitment of any 7" lamp unit in the standard Monster rim and shell.
They have been discussed at length here.. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=54693&highlight=alternative+headlamps&page=2

I have kits for sale comprising one Tricoya Extreme© adapter ring and 6 clips.
They are available in Satin Black and Gloss Gold.



Prices as follows;
Black or Gold. posted 2nd class £21 (add 50p for first class postage) In stock now. (Current stock= 1 black, 4 gold and 1 bare ring.)

Please enquire for overseas postage rates and surcharged areas.
Subtract £3 if you can collect, or if we can arrange collection at a club meet somewhere.

Drop me a PM if you're interested. These are only available to club members.

Disclaimer: This is a personal venture and is nothing to do with UKMOC. The club has no liability.
The kits are priced to make me a small profit which will go entirely on Norton Commando parts.. :biggrin: Give generously.. :biggrin:

Note; These adapters do not fit some of the plastic headlamp shells fitted to the S2R range and the Sports Classic... Sorry! Please check that the diameter of the lens is 186mm from the outside.
 
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Thanks for your order.. :biggrin: Don't forget to put your delivery address on the mail..:thumbsup:
 
Thanks for the Commando vouchers Darkness... Gold ring on it's way.
 
These are brilliant.
I've been running one for a year or more now and it has been perfect.
Highly recommended.

And ps ... the Commando fund is an extremely worthy cause. :D
 
Hi Gary

I've got a carbon headlight shell - do you think these will be ok with it?

I'm looking to keep the look of the M900 but lose the chrome so very interested in satin black if I can still run my lamp inside, or something that looks age-appropriate. Definitely not looking to run one of those naff looking triple LED things!

Cheers - Ben
 
Thanks for the plug Jeff.. :thumbsup:

Ben.
If you can still fit the original Bosch lamp unit into the rim you have (Carbon or Chrome), then the adapter ring should also fit. You will then be able to use an off the shelf 7" unit of your choice... I'm with you on the LED units, they are obviously a very good illuminator, but as you say, the looks don't suit a classic Monster... It's all down to taste.

I'll post a graphic picture this evening, to show how to measure a rim for suitability. It should measure 186mm (I think) across the opening in the rim.
 
Just to clarify.
The adapters replace the standard Bosch light unit. So remove the light unit and you should have a hole in the rim of 186mm within half a mil or so.



Drop the adapter into the inside of the rim, followed by your chosen 7" lamp unit.
The clips then require to be tucked under the rolled edge of the rim, inside.
Look closely at the pictures to confirm the orientation of the clips and note that they don't actually touch the adapter, but press onto the light unit to hold the whole lot firmly in place.




Ben, If you have a metal Bosch rim of the size stated above then you will have no problem. However I am not sure if you are implying that your rim is Carbon, as well as the shell.
If your rim is carbon, then the first requirement is the aperture size, after that it needs some form of groove in the back, replicating the rolled edge of the steel rim, to hold the legs of the clips.
I think that if you already have a Bosch light held in by wire clips, then the adapter and new clips should all work fine.... Sorry I haven't seen the inside of a Carbon rim so I am in the dark to some extent.

Just a suggestion here, but why don't you try Hydro-dipping your adapter and also your (metal?) rim, to match your shell?
Capo has shown me some carbon effect hydro-dipped parts on his bike, and I can't tell the difference between them, and the abundant real carbon.

Hope that helps?
 
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Sorry I totally misunderstood the product on sale - i thought it was a matte black headlight rim.

I was hoping to replace the stock chrome rim with a matte black one and wasn't fussed about changing the actual reflector.

Sorry to have messed you about! Ben

PS work blocks pictures so couldn't see the original item when i looked at midday....soz!
 
I have a carbon shell and rim from Carbonvani (not fitted yet) but both would appear to replicate the rolled edges of the metal originals. The original chrome ring fits into the carbon shell just fine. I can't confirm if the carbon ring fits as I didn't take the chrome one off but it looks like it would.

I actually think the chrome ring and carbon shell would look pretty cool anyway.

Anyway Gazza as you may already know that a similar Bosch lamp is fitted to many Italian bikes from the '70's so it should also fit Guzzi. Laverda. Morini. Benelli etc so there is a potential market for you. The shell of my Mirage is different to the Monster one but the actual lamp part looks to be the same.
 
Nottsbiker said:
Sorry I totally misunderstood the product on sale - i thought it was a matte black headlight rim.

I was hoping to replace the stock chrome rim with a matte black one and wasn't fussed about changing the actual reflector.

Sorry to have messed you about! Ben

PS work blocks pictures so couldn't see the original item when i looked at midday....soz!
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Ben, If you already have a carbon shell. I can tell you Carbonvani make a carbon rim to match, but it is almost as much as the shell they sell. They are hand made to order. I ordered mine through his facebook page.
 
Nottsbiker said:
Definitely not looking to run one of those naff looking triple LED things!

Cheers - Ben
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There's no accounting for taste...


One night you might find yourself riding in the dark (even with your OEM headlamp on its still dark!) and your thoughts could wander to "Oh I wish I could really see" Then again you could be a Brit bike enthusiast and like not being able to see as it reminds you of the bad old days of "Lucas the Prince of Darkness" LOL

LED FTW!

Joking aside, anyone considering one of these rings and being in anyway unsure don't be. Mine has been on the bike for around a year and its as good as the first day I put it on. Well made and well worth the money.

PS. Nottsbiker you are right it is a bit ugly...
 
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I may well take a black one for the future look if you can put one aside for me. I actually got electrics on bike now and headlights working. It may well get changed up as I also have an LED rear light replacement on standby
 
I'm not disputing that the LED style is better, it clearly is, its just too modern looking for my personal taste and I think a few others on here feel the same. We want traditional looks and modern performance I guess. That standard lamp is never going to perform in any way that's needed.
 
Nottsbiker said:
Sorry I totally misunderstood the product on sale
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No worries Ben. I suspected you had the wrong end of the stick somehow, it helped clear up any ambiguity about how the rings work.
It also prompted some very helpful info from Darren... Thanks Darren, good to know the rings will fit Carbon rims okay.

Darren69 said:
Anyway Gazza as you may already know that a similar Bosch lamp is fitted to many Italian bikes from the '70's
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Yes that lamp, if not the exact shell design, was fitted to lots of bikes including beemer K100, Darmas and Pantahs.
There's a guy selling the lamps in the US and the fitment list he gives is very impressive. It follows that my rings will fit all those bikes too.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112742486994?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

Jez900ie said:
it reminds you of the bad old days of "Lucas the Prince of Darkness" ...
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Thanks for the plug Jez, glad you're still pleased with your kit.
Ironically the reflectors and lenses of the (g)olden days were actually quite good. It was the bulb technology and current available, that let them down. Anything with a 12V alternator and a Cibie conversion was probably better than a Bosch equipped Monster.

Albie said:
I may well take a black one for the future
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No worries Albie, no danger of running out just yet. I suspect supply will outstrip demand!
Hope to sell a few more though, as I have a Commando in need... :D
 
Darren69 said:
We want traditional looks and modern performance I guess.
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Yeah I know what you mean; I do too, which is part of the reason I have this bike - well that and my not wanting to spend 20K on a modern Ducati!

I suppose I want traditional looks (where possible) with a little modern performance enhancement here and there.

It would be boring if we and our bikes were all the same!
 
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I'm not knocking the LED units, they're just not to my taste aesthetically.
The point is, that the adapters allow a massive choice of lights in the 7" size, as opposed to a choice of a single, rather outdated design in the Bosch unit.

I am currently using an Autopal Crystal clear unit, (sold as a Defender upgrade) with an H4 LED bulb. I can't find the exact bulb listed, that I got, but it is similar to most on this list. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...000LM H4 9003 HB2 LED Headlight Kit &_sacat=0
Most of those look like they will fit, even with the large protuberance on the back containing a heatsink and sometimes a fan. Of course the reflectors come in varying depths and so also effect how much room there is for the heatsink in the standard shell. The matchbox sized driver unit on the lead shown on some bulbs is a comfortable fit in the shell.

Two very good conventional hot bulbs are the Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited and the trusty Phillips Extreme Vision.

Jerry has reported that the Wipac 6072 unit is very good. This is polycarbonate and so has a weight advantage too. The new rings come in at 35grams. So with a carbon shell and rim you would be looking at a significant weight saving together with better lights.... Lighter and brighter..!

The Commando will be needing a headlamp, so I will sport it a Cibie H180 unit, which has an outwardly traditional appearance. This will be trialled in the Monster initially so I will report on that.
 
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Mr Gazza said:
I'm not knocking the LED units, they're just not to my taste aesthetically.
The point is, that the adapters allow a massive choice of lights in the 7" size, as opposed to a choice of a single, rather outdated design in the Bosch unit.

I am currently using an Autopal Crystal clear unit, (sold as a Defender upgrade) with an H4 LED bulb. I can't find the exact bulb listed, that I got, but it is similar to most on this list. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...000LM H4 9003 HB2 LED Headlight Kit &_sacat=0
Most of those look like they will fit, even with the large protuberance on the back containing a heatsink and sometimes a fan. Of course the reflectors come in varying depths and so also effect how much room there is for the heatsink in the standard shell. The matchbox sized driver unit on the lead shown on some bulbs is a comfortable fit in the shell.

Two very good conventional hot bulbs are the Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited and the trusty Phillips Extreme Vision.

Jerry has reported that the Wipac 6072 unit is very good. This is polycarbonate and so has a weight advantage too. The new rings come in at 35grams. So with a carbon shell and rim you would be looking at a significant weight saving together with better lights.... Lighter and brighter..!

The Commando will be needing a headlamp, so I will sport it a Cibie H180 unit, which has an outwardly traditional appearance. This will be trialled in the Monster initially so I will report on that.
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I have Night Breaker bulbs in my car and they are very good.

I think it is worth mentioning Mr Gazza that the other adapters available literally cost a fortune (more than £100) and are no different to yours.

Your set up is a good compromise between style and performance. I might change mine to the same some day. Its the great thing, your adapter works with dozens of options and changing takes minutes.
 
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