Black plastic(abs) rocker cover

Bitza · 13-01-2022, 07:58 PM

I'm looking for a black abs/plastic rocker cover, with the boss to hold a temp sensor, as fitted to the earlier hypermotard 1100s, part number 24020311AB. Bitza

Luddite · 13-01-2022, 11:15 PM

Can't help in locating the part I'm afraid, Bitza, but just be aware that, while the three other valve covers are plastic, the one you want with the sensor boss is actually aluminium.

Darren69 · 14-01-2022, 04:18 AM

One on ebay:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234250204...gAAOSwv65hcrqZ

Bitza · 14-01-2022, 07:48 AM

Ahh.......well first off the one on fleabay with the cooler mounts isn't actually what I'm after, I was under the impression that hypermotards used ones with just the sensor boss.
So Luddite if you're still there, do you happen to know if the one I want is Ali? For something so simple this couldn't have gone much more wrong. Bitza

Darren69 · 14-01-2022, 08:43 AM

That was the part number you posted (24020311AB). Hypermotards probably have the oil cooler mounted on top but maybe could be reversed if you want the oil cooler in the lower position?

Mr Gazza · 14-01-2022, 09:08 AM

If the part does not exist in ABS, sensor hole, bracket-less form, then it might be possible to 3D print one in ABS or suitable plastic?

I know that Rob produced a 3D CAD model for a finned 2V cover some time ago, maybe it's possible to edit that with a sensor hole or a boss which could be machined?
The early valve covers could be different in many ways to the DS ones though?

Edit.. Found it.

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dacs · 14-01-2022, 09:19 AM

Bitza, I've got this lying in the shed doing nothing, if it is any use to you it's yours. Came off a Multistrada 1000DS motor, so "should" fit an M1000 twin spark, except it doesn't have the oil cooler mount (also it's alloy, not plastic). Part number stamped on it is 240.3.027.1B

Mr Gazza · 14-01-2022, 09:25 AM

Oops! Didn't realise it was that different!

I'm assuming that the change to plastic is for lightness??

slob · 14-01-2022, 09:37 AM

Apologies if my guess was wrong...

Looking at parts books none of the 696/796/1100 monster have the sensor on the front inlet cover, nor does the Hyper evo/SP, the Hyper1100/s is clearly Aluminium from that eBay link, and has the cooler lugs. I don't know what odd Magnesium (listed as DP for Hyper) set I picked up a decade ago.

I guess the easy answer would be to file the lugs off an Aluminium one and live with the extra few grams. I may have an old Aluminium one somewhere if you want to give it a go.

The older ones (620/695/750/800/900) are a completely different shape and fit. I also worry about 3D printed parts strength in critical locations, as FDM printed stuff has a 'weak direction', depending on the orientation of the filament. Whilst that cover has almost no strain on it (once the cooler is removed), a failure could have catastrophic results.

Edit: too slow, dacs may have the answer!

Luddite · 14-01-2022, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitza

Ahh.......well first off the one on fleabay with the cooler mounts isn't actually what I'm after, I was under the impression that hypermotards used ones with just the sensor boss.
So Luddite if you're still there, do you happen to know if the one I want is Ali? For something so simple this couldn't have gone much more wrong. Bitza

The only suitable cover I'm aware of with just the sensor is from the first generation Multistrada, which is what dacs is offering you. It is aluminium and I don't think there is a plastic one with sensor on any other two-valve motor.

Luddite · 14-01-2022, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

I'm assuming that the change to plastic is for lightness??

...and cost too, no doubt.

Mr Gazza · 14-01-2022, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

...and cost too, no doubt.

That was Ducati's primary motive, no doubt! I think Bitza is looking to shed a few more grams though?

I'm sure there is a suitable material that would 3D print the cover(s). There seems to be a huge variety of materials used, even foodstuffs.
I fondly recall being told by the head of BAE's service hangar at RAF Coningsby, whilst gazing up at the fore-planes on a brand new Typhoon, that they are 3D printed in honeycomb Magnesium..

Dukedesmo · 14-01-2022, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

I fondly recall being told by the head of BAE's service hangar at RAF Coningsby, whilst gazing up at the fore-planes on a brand new Typhoon, that they are 3D printed in honeycomb Magnesium..

Indeed and 'how do they do it' on Quest (TV channel) did a how to on these very parts, however I think the cost of one fore-plane significantly exceeds Ducati's budget for an entire bike...

Bitza · 14-01-2022, 03:25 PM

Well thanks to one and all for you inputs, and for the offers of the odd cover but it was specifically a plastic version that I was trying to find, as I already have 2 plain plastic covers for the vertical head. Yes I have to admit to my current weight loss obsession. There was a Bonzo Dog Do Dah band song with a line "to loose some more weight off came my left leg" followed by the chorus line "watch out there's a Monster coming", must be relevant somehow?!
The 3d printing idea is something to think about for the future I'm thinking. Bitza

13-01-2022, 07:58 PM	#1
Bitza Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Poole Bike: M900ie Posts: 470	Black plastic(abs) rocker cover I'm looking for a black abs/plastic rocker cover, with the boss to hold a temp sensor, as fitted to the earlier hypermotard 1100s, part number 24020311AB. Bitza __________________ Bitza

14-01-2022, 04:18 AM	#3
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	One on ebay:- https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234250204...gAAOSwv65hcrqZ __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

14-01-2022, 07:48 AM	#4
Bitza Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Poole Bike: M900ie Posts: 470	Ahh.......well first off the one on fleabay with the cooler mounts isn't actually what I'm after, I was under the impression that hypermotards used ones with just the sensor boss. So Luddite if you're still there, do you happen to know if the one I want is Ali? For something so simple this couldn't have gone much more wrong. Bitza __________________ Bitza

14-01-2022, 08:43 AM	#5
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	That was the part number you posted (24020311AB). Hypermotards probably have the oil cooler mounted on top but maybe could be reversed if you want the oil cooler in the lower position? __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

14-01-2022, 09:08 AM	#6
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,815	If the part does not exist in ABS, sensor hole, bracket-less form, then it might be possible to 3D print one in ABS or suitable plastic? I know that Rob produced a 3D CAD model for a finned 2V cover some time ago, maybe it's possible to edit that with a sensor hole or a boss which could be machined? The early valve covers could be different in many ways to the DS ones though? Edit.. Found it. [/QUOTE] __________________ Last edited by Mr Gazza; 14-01-2022 at 09:17 AM..

13-01-2022, 11:15 PM	#2
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Can't help in locating the part I'm afraid, Bitza, but just be aware that, while the three other valve covers are plastic, the one you want with the sensor boss is actually aluminium.

14-01-2022, 09:19 AM	#7
dacs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Aylsham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 193	Bitza, I've got this lying in the shed doing nothing, if it is any use to you it's yours. Came off a Multistrada 1000DS motor, so "should" fit an M1000 twin spark, except it doesn't have the oil cooler mount (also it's alloy, not plastic). Part number stamped on it is 240.3.027.1B __________________ NFN

14-01-2022, 09:25 AM	#8
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,815	Oops! Didn't realise it was that different! I'm assuming that the change to plastic is for lightness?? __________________

14-01-2022, 09:37 AM	#9
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,712	Apologies if my guess was wrong... Looking at parts books none of the 696/796/1100 monster have the sensor on the front inlet cover, nor does the Hyper evo/SP, the Hyper1100/s is clearly Aluminium from that eBay link, and has the cooler lugs. I don't know what odd Magnesium (listed as DP for Hyper) set I picked up a decade ago. I guess the easy answer would be to file the lugs off an Aluminium one and live with the extra few grams. I may have an old Aluminium one somewhere if you want to give it a go. The older ones (620/695/750/800/900) are a completely different shape and fit. I also worry about 3D printed parts strength in critical locations, as FDM printed stuff has a 'weak direction', depending on the orientation of the filament. Whilst that cover has almost no strain on it (once the cooler is removed), a failure could have catastrophic results. Edit: too slow, dacs may have the answer! Last edited by slob; 14-01-2022 at 09:42 AM.. Reason: too slow

14-01-2022, 03:25 PM	#14
Bitza Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Poole Bike: M900ie Posts: 470	Well thanks to one and all for you inputs, and for the offers of the odd cover but it was specifically a plastic version that I was trying to find, as I already have 2 plain plastic covers for the vertical head. Yes I have to admit to my current weight loss obsession. There was a Bonzo Dog Do Dah band song with a line "to loose some more weight off came my left leg" followed by the chorus line "watch out there's a Monster coming", must be relevant somehow?! The 3d printing idea is something to think about for the future I'm thinking. Bitza __________________ Bitza