M696 Leaking rear shock abosorber

[Darren69]

It'd be my guess that the 696/796/1100 Monsters with the cantilever suspension the same as the old 750/900SS are oversprung to begin with, so would need a lighter spring. My SS always felt better with the Mrs on the back than it did solo. No complaints about the Showa adjustable forks either on the SS which is odd since they are the same forks and don't work as well on the Monster. Since fitting the Ohlins shock on the Monster it has made them feel worse. I suspect that again they are oversprung and the damping adjustment is inadequate or simply too crude to actually do anything worthwhile.

[Luddite]

Originally Posted by BLUNT

Luddite, true, I haven't ridden an Evo but here is someone who has.

This guy sounds an honest guy - look what he says HERE "No need for Ohlins anything."

Well, yes, but since writing that, I think Cobra fitted the Öhlins forks from the 1100S, so he may have changed his opinion.

All I know is that it works for me. I guess if you're happy with the stock set-up, why change? I was very unhappy with mine, so did something about it and it's increased my Evo enjoyment hugely.

[Luddite]

Originally Posted by Darren69

It'd be my guess that the 696/796/1100 Monsters with the cantilever suspension the same as the old 750/900SS are oversprung to begin with, so would need a lighter spring. My SS always felt better with the Mrs on the back than it did solo. No complaints about the Showa adjustable forks either on the SS which is odd since they are the same forks and don't work as well on the Monster. Since fitting the Ohlins shock on the Monster it has made them feel worse. I suspect that again they are oversprung and the damping adjustment is inadequate or simply too crude to actually do anything worthwhile.

Hi, Utopia.

As seems the norm these days, both the standard rear shock and forks use progressive springs. I never could find out the rates for the rear spring but the fork springs are 5.5 Nm - 8.0 Nm, so pretty soft really. In comparison, the springs K-tech fitted were 8.5 Nm (linear). Also, I think the stock fork oil is 7.5 weight while K-tech used 5.0.

Originally Posted by Luddite

All I know is that it works for me.

That's a fair comment

[utopia]

Hi, Luddite.
Just for the record ...you're confusing me and Darren69 again.

[Luddite]

Originally Posted by utopia

Hi, Luddite.
Just for the record ...you're confusing me and Darren69 again.

D'oh! Sorry both. I never suffer from brake fade but brain fade is a different matter!

[chris.p]

Originally Posted by Luddite

D'oh! Sorry both. I never suffer from brake fade but brain fade is a different matter!

A senior moment???

I did fit the forks from the 1100S but they where not much better.

I then spent an arm and half a leg getting proper internals fitted to fix the problems with the Ducati OEM Ohlins fgr736 I think

Now lovely but was quite a path strewn with problems.

all that remains are the stanchions and sliders almost everything else is now modified.
also now had an Ohlins shock custom built to match.

Not at all cheap but I love my M1100evo

DukeSixNineSix if you need a std shock I have my original sachs hanging on the wall
shout if you need it.

Hi all.

Thanks for the replies. After inspection it seems the seal has failed and as suspected a non-rebuildable unit from Sachs. So I now need to decide if I want to fork out the cash for a new shiny upgrade (most likely a Nitron based upon the above comments) or find an OEM unit I can throw in for now.

[Luddite]

I agree Nitron would be a good choice but make sure you order the right unit. See here for Carlo's experience: http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=55536

You could check with Boris as to exactly what model he fitted.

Depending on budget and how soon you need it fixed, maybe Cobra's offer of his old Sachs unit might be your best bet. Nitron shocks are made to order and would probably take 4-5 weeks at this time of year. You could fit the snazzy unit over winter and maybe resell the Sachs unit at the same time.

Just been on the the Horn to Nitron and it's currently 3-4 weeks for delivery. Will have a think about what I want to do, thanks for the offer Cobra.

Update: I've ordered an NTR1 shock from Nitron for my Monster. I'll be sure to add some photos once it's in my paws.

Hopefully less crashing around through bumpy corners in Essex!

I hate reading these threads, early days I've noticed being thrown out the seat on a bump in the road and not enjoyed the experience, another thing to add to the shopping list! Haha!

Originally Posted by Petej

I hate reading these threads, early days I've noticed being thrown out the seat on a bump in the road and not enjoyed the experience, another thing to add to the shopping list! Haha!

I'll let you know what the results are! It's a dangerous business this forum chat.

[chris.p]

Originally Posted by Petej

I hate reading these threads, early days I've noticed being thrown out the seat on a bump in the road and not enjoyed the experience, another thing to add to the shopping list! Haha!

Yep, I remember your pain well, but no longer do I suffer the kick in the butt or the proffesional footballer forks, you know the ones, constantly diving But thanks to Wilburs and K-Tech I love my Evo and feel at one with it