Thinking of a Monster...... - Page 4

350TSS · 10-10-2022, 08:22 AM

I sense you problems with this bike are:
1. difficulty of finding neutral - they all do that to some extent - it can be ridden round and there may be an amelioration of the issue with different engine oil, bleeding of the slave cylinder, chain adjustment/replacement - for me this would not be one strike and your out issue
2. the fact that it has been used on trackdays - The engine cannot be over revved - the inlet manifold configuration means that the power drops off naturally - it cannot get enough air/petrol mixture into the cylinders to produce any more power, it is hardly an over stressed unit anyway at less than 100bhp /litre. My 750SS always ran much better after a sound thrashing and in any case the fact that it has been on track days does not mean it has been used that hard anyway. Most novice track day riders do get not to full throttle for much more than 5 seconds a lap, the worst case is if someone changes down too many gears and over revs it that way and the most likely outcome from that is broken piston rings (which if it runs sweetly it obviously does not have), Desmo means the valves cannot interfere with each other. This would also not be a terminal consideration in my book.
So it is down to the price vs the lack of service records vs what else might be available, if you think the price is good and you think the mileage is genuine then it could be an excellent bike.

Brian. · 10-10-2022, 09:10 AM

Thank you, some interesting facts for me to consider there.

Thank you

motomartin11 · 10-10-2022, 02:48 PM

Is it possible to assess the genuiness of the seller Brian? You usually get a feel for these things when you meet up face to face.
What does he have to say about belt and oil changes? These IMHO are the important factors. Does he know what oil is in ? I was told to use semi synth to avoid clutch problems but how vital that is I don't know.
Tyres are another but having said that mine runs and handles fine on old rubber of different makes. Am going to change them but bike keep throwing up other problems!
Again history can be subjective. Mine had covered very few miles in the last 10 years or so before I bought it and I've still probably only done less than 2K due to reliability.
The tank started leaking on mine which doesn't seem a problem with this bike of your's. I had to get another of Ebay which was a risk but has turned out OK.
I don't find the single front disc to be a problem but I suppose 2 are better than one .
Longer test ride seems to be worth the effort if you can then report back on here and help will be on hand.

Brian. · 10-10-2022, 07:48 PM

Hi Martin,

With regard to the genuineness of the seller, yes I do think he's quite open about stuff, he didn't waffle over any of the the searching questions I asked.

I've sent you some other stuff in reply to your pm too

Regards, Brian.

Brian. · 11-10-2022, 10:25 AM

Just to update you very patient & helpful folks, I spoke to the seller last night and made him a firm offer, from which I've decided I won't increase by more than £50. Definite.

If I don't get it for that then I'll carry on looking, I'm in no rush

Back to you later.

I'm very grateful for all the experience & knowledge you've all shared with me, by the way.

Thank you.

Brian. · 11-10-2022, 12:36 PM

So, I now own a Monster

Some photos here:-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q47wodakgq...2cde6.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h20tayeem7...0734f.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhea05nmfp...cae61.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/848mivr53n...93d6c.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/op0a9io12s...93516.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2n4zs6fk4s...3c89e.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdvql32m78...b2147.jpg?dl=0

I stuck to my offer, and he accepted it. Will pick it up in the next few days, I need to see when my infinitely better half can take me to collect it.

Thank you all! Very much. You'll be relieved to know that I will be out of your hair now.

Until I get my toolbox out, that is

Thank you.

motomartin11 · 11-10-2022, 12:43 PM

Looks to be very original spec to my untrained eye.

Glad you have been able to negotiate a better price.

Don't be afraid to post up any further questions as there's lots of help on hand here.

Also you can use the search facility .

350TSS · 12-10-2022, 11:03 AM

You do know that the red ones are faster?

Brian. · 12-10-2022, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350TSS

You do know that the red ones are faster?

I have to correct you there, that's not always the case; they wouldn't be with me riding them

900Rebuilder · 12-10-2022, 12:32 PM

Looks very tidy from what I can make out from the pictures

Brian. · 12-10-2022, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 900Rebuilder

Looks very tidy from what I can make out from the pictures

Thank you

Nickj · 12-10-2022, 02:24 PM

Now that does look very tidy, glad to hear the negotiations went OK.

12-10-2022, 12:32 PM	#10
900Rebuilder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Beeston Bike: M900 Posts: 299	Looks very tidy from what I can make out from the pictures __________________ Ducati Monster 900 - Yamaha tdr125 & dt200wr - Ford GPW

12-10-2022, 02:24 PM	#12
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,195	Now that does look very tidy, glad to hear the negotiations went OK. __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

10-10-2022, 08:22 AM	#1
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	I sense you problems with this bike are: 1. difficulty of finding neutral - they all do that to some extent - it can be ridden round and there may be an amelioration of the issue with different engine oil, bleeding of the slave cylinder, chain adjustment/replacement - for me this would not be one strike and your out issue 2. the fact that it has been used on trackdays - The engine cannot be over revved - the inlet manifold configuration means that the power drops off naturally - it cannot get enough air/petrol mixture into the cylinders to produce any more power, it is hardly an over stressed unit anyway at less than 100bhp /litre. My 750SS always ran much better after a sound thrashing and in any case the fact that it has been on track days does not mean it has been used that hard anyway. Most novice track day riders do get not to full throttle for much more than 5 seconds a lap, the worst case is if someone changes down too many gears and over revs it that way and the most likely outcome from that is broken piston rings (which if it runs sweetly it obviously does not have), Desmo means the valves cannot interfere with each other. This would also not be a terminal consideration in my book. So it is down to the price vs the lack of service records vs what else might be available, if you think the price is good and you think the mileage is genuine then it could be an excellent bike.

10-10-2022, 09:10 AM	#2
Brian. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Little Haywood Bike: M750 Posts: 68	Thank you, some interesting facts for me to consider there. Thank you

10-10-2022, 02:48 PM	#3
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Is it possible to assess the genuiness of the seller Brian? You usually get a feel for these things when you meet up face to face. What does he have to say about belt and oil changes? These IMHO are the important factors. Does he know what oil is in ? I was told to use semi synth to avoid clutch problems but how vital that is I don't know. Tyres are another but having said that mine runs and handles fine on old rubber of different makes. Am going to change them but bike keep throwing up other problems! Again history can be subjective. Mine had covered very few miles in the last 10 years or so before I bought it and I've still probably only done less than 2K due to reliability. The tank started leaking on mine which doesn't seem a problem with this bike of your's. I had to get another of Ebay which was a risk but has turned out OK. I don't find the single front disc to be a problem but I suppose 2 are better than one . Longer test ride seems to be worth the effort if you can then report back on here and help will be on hand.

10-10-2022, 07:48 PM	#4
Brian. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Little Haywood Bike: M750 Posts: 68	Hi Martin, With regard to the genuineness of the seller, yes I do think he's quite open about stuff, he didn't waffle over any of the the searching questions I asked. I've sent you some other stuff in reply to your pm too Regards, Brian.

11-10-2022, 10:25 AM	#5
Brian. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Little Haywood Bike: M750 Posts: 68	Just to update you very patient & helpful folks, I spoke to the seller last night and made him a firm offer, from which I've decided I won't increase by more than £50. Definite. If I don't get it for that then I'll carry on looking, I'm in no rush Back to you later. I'm very grateful for all the experience & knowledge you've all shared with me, by the way. Thank you.

11-10-2022, 12:36 PM	#6
Brian. Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Little Haywood Bike: M750 Posts: 68	So, I now own a Monster Some photos here:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/q47wodakgq...2cde6.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/h20tayeem7...0734f.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhea05nmfp...cae61.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/848mivr53n...93d6c.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/op0a9io12s...93516.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2n4zs6fk4s...3c89e.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/fdvql32m78...b2147.jpg?dl=0 I stuck to my offer, and he accepted it. Will pick it up in the next few days, I need to see when my infinitely better half can take me to collect it. Thank you all! Very much. You'll be relieved to know that I will be out of your hair now. Until I get my toolbox out, that is Thank you.

11-10-2022, 12:43 PM	#7
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Looks to be very original spec to my untrained eye. Glad you have been able to negotiate a better price. Don't be afraid to post up any further questions as there's lots of help on hand here. Also you can use the search facility .

12-10-2022, 11:03 AM	#8
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,419	You do know that the red ones are faster?