New Monster - Page 4

Doggy · 01-12-2020, 07:53 PM

Red wheels too!. I do like coloured wheels.

Luddite · 01-12-2020, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggy

They certainly are. Supercorsa tyres, lots of track riding.
I wonder what the capacity of the bikes will be?. 821 and 1200 again? Or different?

I'm guessing it'll use the 937cc motor from the Hypermotard 950.

jerry · 02-12-2020, 07:31 AM

no its a copy of a Chinese 125 .....

Luddite · 02-12-2020, 04:59 PM

Well, the wait is over - here it is!

Thoughts?

Ron1000 · 02-12-2020, 05:13 PM

Not keen. It’s lost all monster character for me now

Kato · 02-12-2020, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

no its a copy of a Chinese 125 .....

That is indeed exactly what it looks like

NASTY is the only word that springs to mind there is nothing about this bike to like.
I honestly thought they couldn't make it any uglier than the last version
Oh how they have excelled

The Monster has gone

slob · 02-12-2020, 05:22 PM

I'll reserve judgement 'til I've ridden one. I loved the 1200 the minute I tried it, I didn't warm to the 696 until I'd had a go, riding it changed my mind completely. Love the front indicators.
I'd rather see an Ohlins equipped 1200.

Zimbo · 02-12-2020, 05:29 PM

I quite like that ..... Any info on pricing yet I wonder?

slob · 02-12-2020, 05:44 PM

I don’t think DUK will risk guessing at prices before Jan 1st

uksurfer · 02-12-2020, 06:00 PM

Just missing an IL4
Disappointing

I assume there’s only the smaller one and this 937 now then, want a big engine you go for the SF?

slob · 02-12-2020, 06:17 PM

I think it’s just the 937, if it’s lighter than the 821 and has riding modes, a smaller engine is a bit pointless. I will try and get more info from the factory.

Luddite · 02-12-2020, 06:28 PM

Those indicators caught my eye too, Rob, (and the DRL). Bit of Audi influence in the sequential flashing, I think!

I also like the design of the swinging arm.

In the blurb, they mention "sticker kits" and also plastic "cover kits" so I'm wondering if they've revisited the tank skin feature of the 696/796/1100.

It certainly looks like the "tank" could be in three parts.

If that is the case, they've hidden the fasteners well and it is to be hoped that, whatever material they've chosen for the actual tank, it is well and truly ethanol proof. (I wonder if it's GFRP like the subframe?)

I can see this model bringing a lot of new riders into the Ducati fold who might have previously not considered it, provided the price is right. It's got the sweet 11° 937cc motor, which is consistently named as the best of the V-twins. The low weight (say 189 kg kerbside), low height, (with lowering kit), and the 18,000 mile service interval will be popular. And an A2 version will help too.

bigredduke · 02-12-2020, 07:06 PM

If it's a naked bike, I like to be able to see at first glance the engine & configuration, be it a v twin, boxer or IL4.
It's not immediately obvious what the lump below the tank is, just a mass of black plastic & metal.

First impressions - doesn't do it for me, but I'm sure I'm not part of Ducati's target market, not young, hip or urban enough.

uksurfer · 02-12-2020, 07:07 PM

An Mt09 is 9k, so that should be a ball park price

slob · 02-12-2020, 07:10 PM

DUK’s ‘average’ customer is a 50something yo male

Price for MT09 and eveything else will be up to 10% extra depending on what happens in the next few weeks

02-12-2020, 07:31 AM	#48
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,822	no its a copy of a Chinese 125 ..... __________________ MONSTERMAN

02-12-2020, 06:00 PM	#55
uksurfer Its all grey now Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: southampton Bike: M1200s Posts: 2,940	Just missing an IL4 Disappointing I assume there’s only the smaller one and this 937 now then, want a big engine you go for the SF? __________________ Evolution - M600 - S4 - M796 - M1100evo - M1200s

02-12-2020, 07:07 PM	#59
uksurfer Its all grey now Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: southampton Bike: M1200s Posts: 2,940	An Mt09 is 9k, so that should be a ball park price __________________ Evolution - M600 - S4 - M796 - M1100evo - M1200s

01-12-2020, 07:53 PM	#46
Doggy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Kent Bike: M796 Posts: 510	Red wheels too!. I do like coloured wheels.

02-12-2020, 04:59 PM	#49
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Well, the wait is over - here it is! Thoughts?

02-12-2020, 05:13 PM	#50
Ron1000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Livingston Bike: M1100evo Posts: 863	Not keen. It’s lost all monster character for me now

02-12-2020, 05:22 PM	#52
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,712	I'll reserve judgement 'til I've ridden one. I loved the 1200 the minute I tried it, I didn't warm to the 696 until I'd had a go, riding it changed my mind completely. Love the front indicators. I'd rather see an Ohlins equipped 1200.

02-12-2020, 05:29 PM	#53
Zimbo Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stonehouse, Glos Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,079	I quite like that ..... Any info on pricing yet I wonder?

02-12-2020, 05:44 PM	#54
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,712	I don’t think DUK will risk guessing at prices before Jan 1st

02-12-2020, 06:17 PM	#56
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,712	I think it’s just the 937, if it’s lighter than the 821 and has riding modes, a smaller engine is a bit pointless. I will try and get more info from the factory.

02-12-2020, 06:28 PM	#57
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Those indicators caught my eye too, Rob, (and the DRL). Bit of Audi influence in the sequential flashing, I think! I also like the design of the swinging arm. In the blurb, they mention "sticker kits" and also plastic "cover kits" so I'm wondering if they've revisited the tank skin feature of the 696/796/1100. It certainly looks like the "tank" could be in three parts. If that is the case, they've hidden the fasteners well and it is to be hoped that, whatever material they've chosen for the actual tank, it is well and truly ethanol proof. (I wonder if it's GFRP like the subframe?) I can see this model bringing a lot of new riders into the Ducati fold who might have previously not considered it, provided the price is right. It's got the sweet 11° 937cc motor, which is consistently named as the best of the V-twins. The low weight (say 189 kg kerbside), low height, (with lowering kit), and the 18,000 mile service interval will be popular. And an A2 version will help too.

02-12-2020, 07:06 PM	#58
bigredduke Nothing to see here Join Date: May 2005 Location: brough Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,546	If it's a naked bike, I like to be able to see at first glance the engine & configuration, be it a v twin, boxer or IL4. It's not immediately obvious what the lump below the tank is, just a mass of black plastic & metal. First impressions - doesn't do it for me, but I'm sure I'm not part of Ducati's target market, not young, hip or urban enough.

02-12-2020, 07:10 PM	#60
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,712	DUK’s ‘average’ customer is a 50something yo male Price for MT09 and eveything else will be up to 10% extra depending on what happens in the next few weeks