sad day for bsb - Page 2

jimz750 · 30-08-2011, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utopia

I was there.
It happened right in front of me.
So unlucky. The crash itself was nothing. He would probably have walked away, if he hadn't been hit, but the following pack was still tightly bunched and relatively unsighted, and could do little to avoid him in the circumstances.
A real tradegy.

Me too Jeff, Did'nt spot you though.
Very nasty crash

Mr.Number · 30-08-2011, 10:59 AM

I still think theres plenty of room for improvement regarding protective gear. I dont know if the riders in bsb and similar levels have the air bag systems in their suits which is standard in moto gp, not that it would have helped in these incidents but who knows.

With all the materials available these days, youd think a more protective system would be achievable than just leather/titanium !

I also think more could be done to protect the neck which is exposed at all levels.

30-08-2011, 11:21 AM

Regarding the neck; freedom of movement is essential, and would probably lead to more accidents if the rider cannot turn their head to see. Leather is the best stuff because it allows the fallen rider to slide and doesn't twist or bunch. It isn't for impact resistance therefore protection is minimal.

C

Mr.Number · 30-08-2011, 01:41 PM

it wouldnt be possible to race without freedom of movement for the neck.....however its still exposed. A high proportion of race injuries are collar bone / shoulder related. Protection there is ****. More could be done

30-08-2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Cake

And yet MSV want to replace most marshal posts with flashing LED lights! It's disgusting.

C

Hi, I'd be interested to know where this information comes from as I visit all the MSV circuits during the year and don't know of this development.

30-08-2011, 03:03 PM

Riders safety briefing, braking into Hizzy's, wheelying over the top of Clay Hill and out of Druids. Incidents are Cctv monitored and the appropriate LED signal dished out.

I think you should visit more often. It's fun

I'm at Oulton Park tomorrow if you'd like me to film the briefing.

C

30-08-2011, 03:25 PM

Yes but that's a track day, are you saying that they are replacing marshal's posts on permit race meetings?

30-08-2011, 03:31 PM

This really isn't the thread for it to be honest, mate. I'm not going to row on what is basically an obituary.

Start a thread about circuit safety by all means. I'll row all you like there.

What I will say, however, is that I'd like to think that my life is just as important as, say Hopper's.
C

J.P · 30-08-2011, 03:37 PM

Condolences to all the families of the riders who loved doing what they did.

30-08-2011, 03:38 PM

Here here!

C

30-08-2011, 03:46 PM

Point taken, and of course my sympathies go out to all involved.

30-08-2011, 09:46 PM

Very sad .. I always admire those who race and especially road race as well.
Marshalls don't get paid IOM .. You get a very special patch though.

It's never nice to hear of any biker down be it a racer or a commuter it always makes me extra sad.
Much respect and sympathy to the families.

30-08-2011, 10:59 AM	#17
Mr.Number Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: merseyside Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 168	.... I still think theres plenty of room for improvement regarding protective gear. I dont know if the riders in bsb and similar levels have the air bag systems in their suits which is standard in moto gp, not that it would have helped in these incidents but who knows. With all the materials available these days, youd think a more protective system would be achievable than just leather/titanium ! I also think more could be done to protect the neck which is exposed at all levels.

30-08-2011, 01:41 PM	#19
Mr.Number Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: merseyside Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 168	.... it wouldnt be possible to race without freedom of movement for the neck.....however its still exposed. A high proportion of race injuries are collar bone / shoulder related. Protection there is ****. More could be done

30-08-2011, 03:31 PM	#23
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	This really isn't the thread for it to be honest, mate. I'm not going to row on what is basically an obituary. Start a thread about circuit safety by all means. I'll row all you like there. What I will say, however, is that I'd like to think that my life is just as important as, say Hopper's. C Last edited by Mr Cake; 30-08-2011 at 03:41 PM..

30-08-2011, 03:37 PM	#24
J.P No more Monster... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Bike: Other Not a Ducati Posts: 4,326	Condolences to all the families of the riders who loved doing what they did. __________________ J.JP ------------------------------- My Mum says, there's no such thing as Monsters.

30-08-2011, 11:21 AM	#18
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	Regarding the neck; freedom of movement is essential, and would probably lead to more accidents if the rider cannot turn their head to see. Leather is the best stuff because it allows the fallen rider to slide and doesn't twist or bunch. It isn't for impact resistance therefore protection is minimal. C

30-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#21
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	Riders safety briefing, braking into Hizzy's, wheelying over the top of Clay Hill and out of Druids. Incidents are Cctv monitored and the appropriate LED signal dished out. I think you should visit more often. It's fun I'm at Oulton Park tomorrow if you'd like me to film the briefing. C

30-08-2011, 03:25 PM	#22
Unit 18 Guest Posts: n/a	Yes but that's a track day, are you saying that they are replacing marshal's posts on permit race meetings?

30-08-2011, 03:38 PM	#25
Mr Cake Guest Posts: n/a	Here here! C

30-08-2011, 03:46 PM	#26
Unit 18 Guest Posts: n/a	Point taken, and of course my sympathies go out to all involved.

30-08-2011, 09:46 PM	#27
He11cat Guest Posts: n/a	Very sad .. I always admire those who race and especially road race as well. Marshalls don't get paid IOM .. You get a very special patch though. It's never nice to hear of any biker down be it a racer or a commuter it always makes me extra sad. Much respect and sympathy to the families.