S4R Right indicator flashes after switching off

Stafford · 31-12-2021, 12:37 PM

I have an S4R here, Japanese import. Apart its many little issues on switching off the right indicators flash 12 times, the needles on the clocks also hold just off their rest position as well until the flashes are complete. No alarm fitted. Any thoughts?

rollo22 · 31-12-2021, 02:59 PM

Sounds like ECU isnt playing ball my RS had the headlight stay on for 10/15 secs after ignition off.
Could ask a tuning man or the speedo people Avanti i think.

Luddite · 31-12-2021, 03:21 PM

I've seen people reporting phantom flashing (

) before. Because the flasher 'relay' is within the instruments, I think the general consensus is that it's caused by corrosion or moisture within the clocks themselves.

I seem to remember Brad the Bike Boy saying that he'd seen it on several bikes and advised the owners to either just put up with it or change the clocks.

bigredduke · 31-12-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Luddite

I seem to remember Brad the Bike Boy saying that he'd seen it on several bikes and advised the owners to either just put up with it or change the clocks.

You’ll have to wait until 27th March next year to do that though.

Happy New Year to you & Liz, Stafford

Mr Gazza · 31-12-2021, 04:08 PM

If you can establish that the fault is in the clocks then I think Scorpio Electronics would be able to help you. They have a few very happy customers in Norfolk and I've heard good reports on their work with instruments including an S4R set. Not sure if they get involved with ECUs though.

Scorpio Electronics in Lynn, 01553 279193 or 07768 624062,
35 Marsh Lane, King's Lynn. PE30 3AD.

Luddite · 31-12-2021, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigredduke

You’ll have to wait until 27th March next year to do that though.

Very good!

Roll on BST! In the meantime - Happy New Year.

Nasher · 31-12-2021, 06:25 PM

That definitely sounds like there is some form of interference on the PCB affecting the Indicators circuit whilst the 'system' is shutting down.
My guess is 12 'clicks' being sent to the immobiliser circuit for some reason.

It might be worth opening up the clocks housing and leaving it to dry out indoors for a few days in case it's just moisture.

Stafford · 31-12-2021, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

I've seen people reporting phantom flashing (

) before. Because the flasher 'relay' is within the instruments, I think the general consensus is that it's caused by corrosion or moisture within the clocks themselves.

I seem to remember Brad the Bike Boy saying that he'd seen it on several bikes and advised the owners to either just put up with it or change the clocks.

Had read the same, just checking ta.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigredduke

You’ll have to wait until 27th March next year to do that though.

Happy New Year to you & Liz, Stafford

HNY Red, take it easy.

Darren69 · 01-01-2022, 11:24 AM

I have the exact same issue with my S4R. I'm not sure on the exact number of flashes but seems to speed up until the immob kicks in but everything else seems to work
ok. Previous owner has already replaced the clocks about 4000 miles ago but the clocks appear to be from 2003 for a 2007 bike!

Darren69 · 24-01-2022, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

If you can establish that the fault is in the clocks then I think Scorpio Electronics would be able to help you. They have a few very happy customers in Norfolk and I've heard good reports on their work with instruments including an S4R set. Not sure if they get involved with ECUs though.

Scorpio Electronics in Lynn, 01553 279193 or 07768 624062,
35 Marsh Lane, King's Lynn. PE30 3AD.

I've messaged them so will wait and will report back.

31-12-2021, 12:37 PM	#1
Stafford P3, nice. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calne Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 2,145	S4R Right indicator flashes after switching off I have an S4R here, Japanese import. Apart its many little issues on switching off the right indicators flash 12 times, the needles on the clocks also hold just off their rest position as well until the flashes are complete. No alarm fitted. Any thoughts? __________________ celeres-racing.blogspot.co.uk/ The probability of survival is equal to the angle of arrival.

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rollo22 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moreton-in-Marsh Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,082	Sounds like ECU isnt playing ball my RS had the headlight stay on for 10/15 secs after ignition off. Could ask a tuning man or the speedo people Avanti i think. __________________ IF ALL ELSE FAILS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS

31-12-2021, 03:21 PM	#3
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	I've seen people reporting phantom flashing () before. Because the flasher 'relay' is within the instruments, I think the general consensus is that it's caused by corrosion or moisture within the clocks themselves. I seem to remember Brad the Bike Boy saying that he'd seen it on several bikes and advised the owners to either just put up with it or change the clocks.

31-12-2021, 04:08 PM	#5
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,801	If you can establish that the fault is in the clocks then I think Scorpio Electronics would be able to help you. They have a few very happy customers in Norfolk and I've heard good reports on their work with instruments including an S4R set. Not sure if they get involved with ECUs though. Scorpio Electronics in Lynn, 01553 279193 or 07768 624062, 35 Marsh Lane, King's Lynn. PE30 3AD. __________________

31-12-2021, 06:25 PM	#7
Nasher Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Portsmouth Bike: M900 Posts: 1,510	That definitely sounds like there is some form of interference on the PCB affecting the Indicators circuit whilst the 'system' is shutting down. My guess is 12 'clicks' being sent to the immobiliser circuit for some reason. It might be worth opening up the clocks housing and leaving it to dry out indoors for a few days in case it's just moisture. __________________ Heaven doesn't want me, and Hell is afraid I'll take over.

01-01-2022, 11:24 AM	#9
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	I have the exact same issue with my S4R. I'm not sure on the exact number of flashes but seems to speed up until the immob kicks in but everything else seems to work ok. Previous owner has already replaced the clocks about 4000 miles ago but the clocks appear to be from 2003 for a 2007 bike! __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage Last edited by Darren69; 01-01-2022 at 11:28 AM..