Termignoni wobble

17-05-2018, 09:44 AM

Good morning gents.

I took my Termis off the Monster last weekend to scotch-brite the Ba-Jesus out of the mid pipe, as it was looking a bit worse for wear. The silencers slid off nicely, but I noticed when reassembling it that they were a little bit loose.

The hanger that drops down from the pillion seat wasn't the issue, it seems that the cleaning the adjoining exhaust parts has taken away some of the resistance between them.

I've had a look online for some solutions and it seems someone across the pond has had a similar issue with their bike.
http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/...011-796-a.html

Any suggestions like a high-temp exhaust paste that might help stop them from wobbling?
I don't think it's creating a leak, it's more of a piece of mind thing.

Thanks!
Tom

Albie · 17-05-2018, 10:33 AM

Sad to say they all do that mostly.

chris.p · 17-05-2018, 11:04 AM

A little trick I have used in the past is Tin Foil or cut up a Coke ( or other thin walled aluminium drinks can) and put that into the joint, wrked for me.

Darkness · 17-05-2018, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris.p

A little trick I have used in the past is Tin Foil or cut up a Coke ( or other thin walled aluminium drinks can) and put that into the joint, wrked for me.

As discussed in 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' by the late Robert M. Pirsig. A seminal read.

https://www.ft.com/content/9604cfe4-...b-5528796fe35c

chris.p · 17-05-2018, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

As discussed in 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' by the late Robert M. Pirsig. A seminal read.

https://www.ft.com/content/9604cfe4-...b-5528796fe35c

To be fair, I have never read it 👍

damien666 · 18-05-2018, 10:35 AM

Mines same. I’ve thought about have two new springs/ loops welded on.
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=0&cspheader=1

Darren69 · 19-05-2018, 07:16 PM

Use some exhaust assembly paste on the joints.

Jez900ie · 19-05-2018, 07:19 PM

The exhaust pipe gun gum would probably sort the problem quickly?

Dukedesmo · 19-05-2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jez900ie

The exhaust pipe gun gum would probably sort the problem quickly?

It does but; many years ago I used gun gum on my 916 exhaust as it seemed a little loose and was blowing a bit at the joints - worked great but was a real swine to remove them later as everything was solid.

My Monster has high level termis and the link pipes originally had no springs on them so wobbled everywhere. I welded loops on to use exhaust springs and it's fine now.

Jez900ie · 19-05-2018, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukedesmo

It does but; many years ago I used gun gum on my 916 exhaust as it seemed a little loose and was blowing a bit at the joints - worked great but was a real swine to remove them later as everything was solid.

My Monster has high level termis and the link pipes originally had no springs on them so wobbled everywhere. I welded loops on to use exhaust springs and it's fine now.

Good point! Though these days there are solvents to disolve pratically anything. Plus I don't know how to weld.

20-05-2018, 03:55 AM

When I put my exhausts back together after a winter polish I use this Wurth hi temp silicone paste.
Two years ago I bought a Hawk exhaust for my triumph and the Wurth came with it.
The exhaust came from a dealer over on your side of the pond oddly enough but the Wurth or anything similar will take up that space nicely.

Capo · 20-05-2018, 07:09 AM

Ducati have a part number for Holts fire gum

utopia · 20-05-2018, 12:09 PM

I got a length of thin, heat/fire resistant rope of the type used for sealing around doors on woodstoves etc.
I cut a length of this, removed the cans and shoved it down the gap between the double-walled section of pipe at the header/can joint.
When reassembled, the end of the can inlet stub then butts up and seals against the rope.
This is on a high level termi system and I have added loops and springs to the joint, to hold the cans firmly against the rope seal.
The nice thing about this method is that the cans can be removed and refitted very easily without having to fiddle with the seal each time.
The thinnest fire rope I could find was too fat to fit down the narrow gap but this stuff is constructed of a braided outer sheath around a multi-strand core and after removing the core, the outer braided sheath was just right for a neat fit.

Although this gives a better seal, it probably doesn't totally eliminate the wobble (particularly on low level cans, I imagine), but the springs do hold everything much more firmly.

17-05-2018, 09:44 AM	#1
DukeSixNineSix Guest Posts: n/a	Termignoni wobble Good morning gents. I took my Termis off the Monster last weekend to scotch-brite the Ba-Jesus out of the mid pipe, as it was looking a bit worse for wear. The silencers slid off nicely, but I noticed when reassembling it that they were a little bit loose. The hanger that drops down from the pillion seat wasn't the issue, it seems that the cleaning the adjoining exhaust parts has taken away some of the resistance between them. I've had a look online for some solutions and it seems someone across the pond has had a similar issue with their bike. http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/...011-796-a.html Any suggestions like a high-temp exhaust paste that might help stop them from wobbling? I don't think it's creating a leak, it's more of a piece of mind thing. Thanks! Tom

17-05-2018, 10:33 AM	#2
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	Sad to say they all do that mostly. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

18-05-2018, 10:35 AM	#6
damien666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Leeds, West-Yorks Bike: S4Rs Posts: 497	Mines same. I’ve thought about have two new springs/ loops welded on. http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBa...=0&cspheader=1 Last edited by damien666; 18-05-2018 at 10:40 AM..

19-05-2018, 07:16 PM	#7
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	Use some exhaust assembly paste on the joints. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

19-05-2018, 07:19 PM	#8
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	The exhaust pipe gun gum would probably sort the problem quickly? __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed

17-05-2018, 11:04 AM	#3
chris.p Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: lincoln Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 876	A little trick I have used in the past is Tin Foil or cut up a Coke ( or other thin walled aluminium drinks can) and put that into the joint, wrked for me.

20-05-2018, 03:55 AM	#11
dk1six Guest Posts: n/a	When I put my exhausts back together after a winter polish I use this Wurth hi temp silicone paste. Two years ago I bought a Hawk exhaust for my triumph and the Wurth came with it. The exhaust came from a dealer over on your side of the pond oddly enough but the Wurth or anything similar will take up that space nicely.

20-05-2018, 07:09 AM	#12
Capo You Are What You Is Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Foward Location Bike: S4r Posts: 1,948	Ducati have a part number for Holts fire gum

20-05-2018, 12:09 PM	#13
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,561	I got a length of thin, heat/fire resistant rope of the type used for sealing around doors on woodstoves etc. I cut a length of this, removed the cans and shoved it down the gap between the double-walled section of pipe at the header/can joint. When reassembled, the end of the can inlet stub then butts up and seals against the rope. This is on a high level termi system and I have added loops and springs to the joint, to hold the cans firmly against the rope seal. The nice thing about this method is that the cans can be removed and refitted very easily without having to fiddle with the seal each time. The thinnest fire rope I could find was too fat to fit down the narrow gap but this stuff is constructed of a braided outer sheath around a multi-strand core and after removing the core, the outer braided sheath was just right for a neat fit. Although this gives a better seal, it probably doesn't totally eliminate the wobble (particularly on low level cans, I imagine), but the springs do hold everything much more firmly.