Coming back home

15-02-2021, 09:19 PM

Okay guys need some advice, I know you've been ask many questions before. I am a novice rider who fell in love with Ducatis when I worked there 12 years ago. My first bike was a 695 Monster quickly changed for a S2R 800 which was loved until I had to sell it for family reasons. I am now of the age I wish to go back on two wheels before its too late, as I have stated I am a novice, and my knees never get near the road. So here is my Question, for me it must be a Monster but which one I'm no speed freak I like the look of the 797 please help me is this an easy bike to ride, looking to get one as soon as showrooms are open.

Thanks for having me back and thanks in advance for any opinions you have for me

Luddite · 15-02-2021, 10:10 PM

Welcome back - almost!

RMD has just bought a 797

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ght=797&page=2

...and wheatley473 has had one for a couple of years now so, if they don't chip in here, you could PM them for their opinions.

Let us know what you eventually decide on.

rollo22 · 16-02-2021, 06:46 AM

Message Shuffy he has a 796 for sale and only lives in Dartford.

mickj · 16-02-2021, 10:03 AM

Welcome to the forum Redheinz,

If you like the look of the 797 then that's the bike for you, they are all easy to ride if you are sensible.

Ron1000 · 16-02-2021, 11:24 AM

Honestly.

You’d be fine on any monster barring the S4RS, 1200s, 1200r…purely from a power perspective.

A lot of people haven mentioned the 1100s as a nice bike with nice factory parts like ohlins suspension. I’d say the 1100evo but I’m biased.

The new water cooled 797, 821’s will be fine too.

I’d say ask yourself these questions:
Air cooled or water cooled?
Dry clutch or wet clutch?
Then look at power stats see what you’d be happy with.

slob · 16-02-2021, 01:14 PM

Welcome back

800ie, S2R, 796 & 797 are essentially all the same motor, with ever increasing environmental limits.
800ie was Euro2
S2r switched to single sided swingarm and updated to Euro3 with exhaust sensor,
as is the 796 but in a 'Mk2' chassis.
The 797 is Euro4 and a 'Mk3', which is physically a little large than the earlier bikes but was dropped from the range quite quickly as Euro5 came in and water cooled bikes are easier to make a little quieter.
Euro3 or higher is already essential for avoiding London ULEZ charges, this can only be expected to get tougher and spread further as time goes on.

The 750/800 Monsters are a good choice, plenty of power but a little more civilised than 900/1000 and with a slightly lighter clutch, which may be p[referable if use the bikes in town.
Experienced riders may quite quickly find 600/620 lacking grunt, especially if you ride with a passenger, although some find riding a smaller bike more 'engaging'.
Obviously the big 4v/watercooled models are fairly mental by comparison to the 2v/air cooled bikes, the 821 is a 4v that's not quite as mad.

I'd try and test ride a few if you can.

Ron1000 · 16-02-2021, 01:57 PM

Wait is the 797 not water cooled. Shame on me

Luddite · 16-02-2021, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron1000

Wait is the 797 not water cooled. Shame on me

Easy mistake to make, Ron. Aren't all bikes water cooled in Scotland?

Ron1000 · 16-02-2021, 03:12 PM

Except for 2 weeks in august yes.

Darren69 · 16-02-2021, 04:03 PM

I mean if you're prepared to take the hit on depreciation with a newer bike, something like a 797 or 821/1200 then fine. Similar money will get you a more classic bike that will not lose any value over the next few years. So if you cash in after a few years of riding you'll get all your money back and some of the older ones are equal performance wise anyway. I know which I would do.

16-02-2021, 07:46 PM

thanks guys a lot of things for me to mull over trying to book a few test drives as soon as Ashford Ducati open up

20-02-2021, 12:04 PM

Okay I have now placed a deposit on the last new 797 in Ducati Ashford, I will be hopefully taking ownership pending a test ride as soon as they re open

Luddite · 20-02-2021, 12:31 PM

Great news - something to look forward to!⁰1 Hope you like it when you finally get to ride it.

14-03-2021, 03:56 PM

well its happened not been online this week because a week ago i picked up my new 797 i know its an old style bike now but to me it has brought back my love of Monsters after 13 years first ride out was very nervous but a week on i know i've made the right choice

Luddite · 14-03-2021, 04:15 PM

Glad you're happy with it. Do you have plans for any mods yet (a Termi or some carbon perhaps?).

Don't forget to post up some photos.

15-02-2021, 09:19 PM	#1
Redheinz Guest Posts: n/a	Coming back home Okay guys need some advice, I know you've been ask many questions before. I am a novice rider who fell in love with Ducatis when I worked there 12 years ago. My first bike was a 695 Monster quickly changed for a S2R 800 which was loved until I had to sell it for family reasons. I am now of the age I wish to go back on two wheels before its too late, as I have stated I am a novice, and my knees never get near the road. So here is my Question, for me it must be a Monster but which one I'm no speed freak I like the look of the 797 please help me is this an easy bike to ride, looking to get one as soon as showrooms are open. Thanks for having me back and thanks in advance for any opinions you have for me

16-02-2021, 06:46 AM	#3
rollo22 Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Moreton-in-Marsh Bike: M1100evo Posts: 1,083	Message Shuffy he has a 796 for sale and only lives in Dartford. __________________ IF ALL ELSE FAILS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS

16-02-2021, 10:03 AM	#4
mickj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Clevedon Bike: M1200s Posts: 565	Welcome to the forum Redheinz, If you like the look of the 797 then that's the bike for you, they are all easy to ride if you are sensible. __________________ Keep the rubber side down. Mick

16-02-2021, 04:03 PM	#10
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,098	I mean if you're prepared to take the hit on depreciation with a newer bike, something like a 797 or 821/1200 then fine. Similar money will get you a more classic bike that will not lose any value over the next few years. So if you cash in after a few years of riding you'll get all your money back and some of the older ones are equal performance wise anyway. I know which I would do. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

15-02-2021, 10:10 PM	#2
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Welcome back - almost! RMD has just bought a 797 http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ght=797&page=2 ...and wheatley473 has had one for a couple of years now so, if they don't chip in here, you could PM them for their opinions. Let us know what you eventually decide on.

16-02-2021, 11:24 AM	#5
Ron1000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Livingston Bike: M1100evo Posts: 867	Honestly. You’d be fine on any monster barring the S4RS, 1200s, 1200r…purely from a power perspective. A lot of people haven mentioned the 1100s as a nice bike with nice factory parts like ohlins suspension. I’d say the 1100evo but I’m biased. The new water cooled 797, 821’s will be fine too. I’d say ask yourself these questions: Air cooled or water cooled? Dry clutch or wet clutch? Then look at power stats see what you’d be happy with.

16-02-2021, 01:14 PM	#6
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,738	Welcome back 800ie, S2R, 796 & 797 are essentially all the same motor, with ever increasing environmental limits. 800ie was Euro2 S2r switched to single sided swingarm and updated to Euro3 with exhaust sensor, as is the 796 but in a 'Mk2' chassis. The 797 is Euro4 and a 'Mk3', which is physically a little large than the earlier bikes but was dropped from the range quite quickly as Euro5 came in and water cooled bikes are easier to make a little quieter. Euro3 or higher is already essential for avoiding London ULEZ charges, this can only be expected to get tougher and spread further as time goes on. The 750/800 Monsters are a good choice, plenty of power but a little more civilised than 900/1000 and with a slightly lighter clutch, which may be p[referable if use the bikes in town. Experienced riders may quite quickly find 600/620 lacking grunt, especially if you ride with a passenger, although some find riding a smaller bike more 'engaging'. Obviously the big 4v/watercooled models are fairly mental by comparison to the 2v/air cooled bikes, the 821 is a 4v that's not quite as mad. I'd try and test ride a few if you can.

16-02-2021, 01:57 PM	#7
Ron1000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Livingston Bike: M1100evo Posts: 867	Wait is the 797 not water cooled. Shame on me

16-02-2021, 03:12 PM	#9
Ron1000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Livingston Bike: M1100evo Posts: 867	Except for 2 weeks in august yes.

16-02-2021, 07:46 PM	#11
Redheinz Guest Posts: n/a	thanks guys a lot of things for me to mull over trying to book a few test drives as soon as Ashford Ducati open up

20-02-2021, 12:04 PM	#12
Redheinz Guest Posts: n/a	Okay I have now placed a deposit on the last new 797 in Ducati Ashford, I will be hopefully taking ownership pending a test ride as soon as they re open

20-02-2021, 12:31 PM	#13
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Great news - something to look forward to!⁰1 Hope you like it when you finally get to ride it.

14-03-2021, 03:56 PM	#14
Redheinz Guest Posts: n/a	well its happened not been online this week because a week ago i picked up my new 797 i know its an old style bike now but to me it has brought back my love of Monsters after 13 years first ride out was very nervous but a week on i know i've made the right choice

14-03-2021, 04:15 PM	#15
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	Glad you're happy with it. Do you have plans for any mods yet (a Termi or some carbon perhaps?). Don't forget to post up some photos.