Wet or Dry Clutch?

15-09-2013, 10:11 AM

Hi, I've been trying to find out which model year 620 Monsters had a dry clutch and which had a wet clutch? The reason for asking is that I'm looking to get a 620 Monster for my wife's first big bike and i'm concerned about getting a bike with a dry clutch as i've had problems with dry clutches grabbing in the past and want to get her a wet clutch Monster for peace of mind. I'm looking at an 02 model and there appears to be some contradictory info on web..?
Thank you,
Gary.

pompone · 15-09-2013, 10:19 AM

All 620 are wet clutch, good luck with the hunt

15-09-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pompone

All 620 are wet clutch, good luck with the hunt

^ What he said.

Dirty · 15-09-2013, 11:28 AM

^ What they said

Nickj · 15-09-2013, 12:00 PM

Pretty much all of the mosters have wet clutches ....

except for the obvious ones that didn't, they all have a removable cover either open to show it off or a closed cover...

Wet -> 400, 600, 620, 695, 696, 750, 800 and S2R
Dry -> 900, 1000DS, s2r1000, 1100, s4, S4r's

So in the range you're looking for it will be wet, what you might find is an APTC slipper clutch, helpfull for those that just stamp down a gear or might get themselves in a stuation where a down change might lock or give the back wheel a skip.
For someone new to this kind of motor and more used to jap motors that spin up a bit faster these might be a bit of a bonus.

I seem to remember reading somewhere there is an engine series that had a dry clutch hidden under a normal looking cover, didn't some of these find there way into some of the early series monsters (??) or am I making this up !!

15-09-2013, 12:18 PM

Thank you all very much. that clears things up. I read a couple of early road test articles saying that the 600 Monster on test had a dry clutch which confused me, so it looks like perhaps a few of the early ones did use a dry clutch, but i'm looking for a late 600 (583) or early 620 so I will be fine!

15-09-2013, 01:40 PM

My GF had a M750 as her first big bike, Deffo worth thinking about as an option over the smaller bikes

15-09-2013, 02:48 PM

If you haven't seen it, there's a cheap as chips early 620 in the for sale section.

15-09-2013, 02:48 PM

A nice low mileage wet clutch 600 has just been advertised on here

Flip · 15-09-2013, 03:03 PM

Be careful with the 750's though as some (early ones) share the dry clutch of it's big brother!

pompone · 15-09-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flip

Be careful with the 750's though as some (early ones) share the dry clutch of it's big brother!

I thought the only dry clutch 750 ducati-engined bikes were Cagiva Elefant

Flip · 15-09-2013, 10:28 PM

.....now you have me thinking, trying to remember if I've seen one on a Monster.

They were definitely used on the old 750F1 and I am certain early SS's had them but maybe between those two and the Nelly they had used them all up by the time the 750 Monster rolled out of the factory.

pompone · 15-09-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Flip

.....now you have me thinking, trying to remember if I've seen one on a Monster.

They were definitely used on the old 750F1 and I am certain early SS's had them but maybe between those two and the Nelly they had used them all up by the time the 750 Monster rolled out of the factory.

I think they would have been..the f1 and SS had the reverse rear head and no Monster came out with that set up

Flip · 15-09-2013, 11:12 PM

Dry clutches were definitely used on the early SS's with the rear head 'our' way round (not the proper way?), which I believe got turned around when the original 750 Paso (also a dry clutch I think) came out so they could accommodate the fuel injection unit between the cylinders saying goodbye to those lovely open Dell'ortos.

17-09-2013, 08:49 AM

Guys, looking at a few 620's for sale of similar age (02) I notice some have black cam belt covers and others have the lacquered finish to match the engine. Are these upgraded parts or just typical of model year differences? Are there any major differences between an older 620 and a newer one? Sorry but just being overcautious in my prospective purchase as the 620 is not familiar to me!

15-09-2013, 10:11 AM	#1
Speedtrip Guest Posts: n/a	Wet or Dry Clutch? Hi, I've been trying to find out which model year 620 Monsters had a dry clutch and which had a wet clutch? The reason for asking is that I'm looking to get a 620 Monster for my wife's first big bike and i'm concerned about getting a bike with a dry clutch as i've had problems with dry clutches grabbing in the past and want to get her a wet clutch Monster for peace of mind. I'm looking at an 02 model and there appears to be some contradictory info on web..? Thank you, Gary.

15-09-2013, 10:19 AM	#2
pompone MaleDucati Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London Bike: M900 Posts: 817	All 620 are wet clutch, good luck with the hunt __________________ www.desmoperformanceparts.com

15-09-2013, 12:00 PM	#5
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,208	Pretty much all of the mosters have wet clutches .... except for the obvious ones that didn't, they all have a removable cover either open to show it off or a closed cover... Wet -> 400, 600, 620, 695, 696, 750, 800 and S2R Dry -> 900, 1000DS, s2r1000, 1100, s4, S4r's So in the range you're looking for it will be wet, what you might find is an APTC slipper clutch, helpfull for those that just stamp down a gear or might get themselves in a stuation where a down change might lock or give the back wheel a skip. For someone new to this kind of motor and more used to jap motors that spin up a bit faster these might be a bit of a bonus. I seem to remember reading somewhere there is an engine series that had a dry clutch hidden under a normal looking cover, didn't some of these find there way into some of the early series monsters (??) or am I making this up !! __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature Last edited by Nickj; 15-09-2013 at 12:02 PM..

15-09-2013, 03:03 PM	#10
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	Be careful with the 750's though as some (early ones) share the dry clutch of it's big brother! __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

15-09-2013, 10:28 PM	#12
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	Hmmmmm...... .....now you have me thinking, trying to remember if I've seen one on a Monster. They were definitely used on the old 750F1 and I am certain early SS's had them but maybe between those two and the Nelly they had used them all up by the time the 750 Monster rolled out of the factory. __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

15-09-2013, 11:28 AM	#4
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	^ What they said

15-09-2013, 12:18 PM	#6
Speedtrip Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you all very much. that clears things up. I read a couple of early road test articles saying that the 600 Monster on test had a dry clutch which confused me, so it looks like perhaps a few of the early ones did use a dry clutch, but i'm looking for a late 600 (583) or early 620 so I will be fine!

15-09-2013, 01:40 PM	#7
bluestoesonnose Guest Posts: n/a	My GF had a M750 as her first big bike, Deffo worth thinking about as an option over the smaller bikes

15-09-2013, 02:48 PM	#8
Scott1 Guest Posts: n/a	If you haven't seen it, there's a cheap as chips early 620 in the for sale section.

15-09-2013, 02:48 PM	#9
Mark Shelley Guest Posts: n/a	A nice low mileage wet clutch 600 has just been advertised on here

17-09-2013, 08:49 AM	#15
Speedtrip Guest Posts: n/a	620 Model Differences Guys, looking at a few 620's for sale of similar age (02) I notice some have black cam belt covers and others have the lacquered finish to match the engine. Are these upgraded parts or just typical of model year differences? Are there any major differences between an older 620 and a newer one? Sorry but just being overcautious in my prospective purchase as the 620 is not familiar to me!