Replacement Clutch

08-03-2015, 02:59 PM

I originally posted in the wanted section for OEM clutch parts. I need a full set of plates, clutch drum and basket for my rebuild.

I rang Motorapido for advice and they said they fit mostly genuine Ducati replacement parts and that Ali baskets are less durable. It's going to cost me about £400 not including the 10% discount at Motorapido.

Initially I was not overly fussed regarding slipper clutches and bling ali parts however I received negative feedback regarding genuine ducati parts. I know that GAZZA is interested in quality and durable aluminium clutch parts.

I would like some recommendations and advice for good, durable clutch sets which I could use at a similar cost to the ducati parts. I'm not interested to much in weight saving. What are people using and do they like it? What about slipper clutches?

I'm hoping this will be a good informative post which can help other people in the same position...

Thanks very much!

jerry · 08-03-2015, 03:11 PM

original ducati steels clutch basket in my S4 lasted 16k miles and was very worn and noisy ,, aluminium basket from stein diense germany with ducati plates has lasted so far 18k miles and is still in good condition ...fairly quiet and not much wear.

Pedro · 08-03-2015, 04:21 PM

I have about 25,000 miles on genuine Ducati basket and plates plus a decent second hand hub, all still good.

will probably fit an ally basket though when needed

Kato · 08-03-2015, 05:31 PM

If you can find one get a Barnett basket they have stainless inserts that will last forever

Quick search turns this up

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Barnett-Bi...item3ceee69e77

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-100...item2c8f428b66

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Mon...item3cf47ef2c3

here ya go, job done for around £300

Mr Gazza · 08-03-2015, 05:55 PM

Thanks for mentioning my interest in this ibanezlynx.

I am not looking exclusivly for Alloy components for the sake of it. If other materials prove to be longer lasting and keenly priced, they will get my vote.

I am also very interested in "cherry picking" the best bits from various sources and need to be reassured that if they are designated for my model, that they will live together in it.

Obviously not expecting 48 tab plates to fit in a standard basket and so on but would wish for all the bits to be harmonious.

One reason for this is that I may need to take advantage of any bargains going, and piece my new clutch together in easy installments...Obviously fitting it all in one go when all the bits are aquired.

Excellent tips so far though..Thank you...

Darren69 · 08-03-2015, 06:21 PM

I like the alloy basket with steel inserts, that's a great idea. Although I'm thinking of replacing my 12 tooth with a 48 tooth basket when it comes time to replace it.

08-03-2015, 06:52 PM

Awesome stuff so far. KATO I axtually emailed those guys regarding the clutch hub a few days ago and they said it wouldn't fit a 1994 monster? Not sure that's correct.

No problems GAZZA, I too want to get the best prices available and am likely to pick and place to get a working clutch!

I'm liking the alloy and stainless insert basket, seems like a great idea!

Dirty · 08-03-2015, 08:11 PM

Which type is noisiest? That's the one I want

damien666 · 08-03-2015, 08:28 PM

The EVR 48 tooth basket and plates conversion looks good and within your price range?

Mr Gazza · 08-03-2015, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty

Which type is noisiest? That's the one I want

I'll send you my old one then...

Kato · 09-03-2015, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibanezlynx

I axtually emailed those guys regarding the clutch hub a few days ago and they said it wouldn't fit a 1994 monster? Not sure that's correct.

!

Think that's incorrect pretty sure they were the same from 1990 to 2007/8

Original part number 19610011A changed to 19610011B, has been superseded by 19610012B and is listed for everything from 851 up including Monster 93 to 02, I'd check with them again

09-03-2015, 06:28 PM

Thanks Kato, great help. I challenged it and they decided it should fit. I've bought it anyway.
Do you think steel plates would be okay in the barnett basket? Not sure what the thickness of the stainless inserts are.
Does anyone have any experience of the EVR 48 tooth conversion? I guess the loads shared out so maybe a bit smoother and less aggressive wear? Does anyone have any experience using this system?

30-03-2015, 06:34 PM

So I ended up buying an aftermarket hub, newfren plates and a ducati basket. Thanks everyone for the help. All goes together okay and I managed to save a bit of money:

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Dukedesmo · 30-03-2015, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibanezlynx

So I ended up buying an aftermarket hub, newfren plates and a ducati basket. Thanks everyone for the help. All goes together okay and I managed to save a bit of money:

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Is that a steel basket? Because if it is the Newfren plates won't last long...

30-03-2015, 09:06 PM

It certainly is. I picked the plates up cheap. My theory is- An ali basket worth having is hard-anodised and thus has a harder surface than ali plates. Therefore an ali basket or basket with steel inserts will wear ali plates quicker than the basket. I picked up the plates cheap and can always dress the tangs periodically. At least the basket will last and I am happy to replace the plates when I need too.

08-03-2015, 02:59 PM	#1
ibanezlynx Guest Posts: n/a	Replacement Clutch I originally posted in the wanted section for OEM clutch parts. I need a full set of plates, clutch drum and basket for my rebuild. I rang Motorapido for advice and they said they fit mostly genuine Ducati replacement parts and that Ali baskets are less durable. It's going to cost me about £400 not including the 10% discount at Motorapido. Initially I was not overly fussed regarding slipper clutches and bling ali parts however I received negative feedback regarding genuine ducati parts. I know that GAZZA is interested in quality and durable aluminium clutch parts. I would like some recommendations and advice for good, durable clutch sets which I could use at a similar cost to the ducati parts. I'm not interested to much in weight saving. What are people using and do they like it? What about slipper clutches? I'm hoping this will be a good informative post which can help other people in the same position... Thanks very much!

08-03-2015, 03:11 PM	#2
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,822	original ducati steels clutch basket in my S4 lasted 16k miles and was very worn and noisy ,, aluminium basket from stein diense germany with ducati plates has lasted so far 18k miles and is still in good condition ...fairly quiet and not much wear. __________________ MONSTERMAN

08-03-2015, 04:21 PM	#3
Pedro Ciao, come stai? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 4,157	I have about 25,000 miles on genuine Ducati basket and plates plus a decent second hand hub, all still good. will probably fit an ally basket though when needed __________________ M900 - 1993! Monster 1200R!

08-03-2015, 05:31 PM	#4
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,222	If you can find one get a Barnett basket they have stainless inserts that will last forever Quick search turns this up http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Barnett-Bi...item3ceee69e77 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-100...item2c8f428b66 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Mon...item3cf47ef2c3 here ya go, job done for around £300 __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime"

08-03-2015, 06:21 PM	#6
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,023	I like the alloy basket with steel inserts, that's a great idea. Although I'm thinking of replacing my 12 tooth with a 48 tooth basket when it comes time to replace it. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

08-03-2015, 05:55 PM	#5
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,810	Thanks for mentioning my interest in this ibanezlynx. I am not looking exclusivly for Alloy components for the sake of it. If other materials prove to be longer lasting and keenly priced, they will get my vote. I am also very interested in "cherry picking" the best bits from various sources and need to be reassured that if they are designated for my model, that they will live together in it. Obviously not expecting 48 tab plates to fit in a standard basket and so on but would wish for all the bits to be harmonious. One reason for this is that I may need to take advantage of any bargains going, and piece my new clutch together in easy installments...Obviously fitting it all in one go when all the bits are aquired. Excellent tips so far though..Thank you...

08-03-2015, 06:52 PM	#7
ibanezlynx Guest Posts: n/a	Awesome stuff so far. KATO I axtually emailed those guys regarding the clutch hub a few days ago and they said it wouldn't fit a 1994 monster? Not sure that's correct. No problems GAZZA, I too want to get the best prices available and am likely to pick and place to get a working clutch! I'm liking the alloy and stainless insert basket, seems like a great idea!

08-03-2015, 08:11 PM	#8
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Which type is noisiest? That's the one I want __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

08-03-2015, 08:28 PM	#9
damien666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Leeds, West-Yorks Bike: S4Rs Posts: 497	The EVR 48 tooth basket and plates conversion looks good and within your price range?

09-03-2015, 06:28 PM	#12
ibanezlynx Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks Kato, great help. I challenged it and they decided it should fit. I've bought it anyway. Do you think steel plates would be okay in the barnett basket? Not sure what the thickness of the stainless inserts are. Does anyone have any experience of the EVR 48 tooth conversion? I guess the loads shared out so maybe a bit smoother and less aggressive wear? Does anyone have any experience using this system?

30-03-2015, 06:34 PM	#13
ibanezlynx Guest Posts: n/a	So I ended up buying an aftermarket hub, newfren plates and a ducati basket. Thanks everyone for the help. All goes together okay and I managed to save a bit of money: [/URL][/IMG]

30-03-2015, 09:06 PM	#15
ibanezlynx Guest Posts: n/a	It certainly is. I picked the plates up cheap. My theory is- An ali basket worth having is hard-anodised and thus has a harder surface than ali plates. Therefore an ali basket or basket with steel inserts will wear ali plates quicker than the basket. I picked up the plates cheap and can always dress the tangs periodically. At least the basket will last and I am happy to replace the plates when I need too.