M750 Side Stand

motomartin11 · 11-04-2021, 04:18 PM

Anyone got a side stand for a '96 MY they would be willing to sell please? Mine has lost the foot at the end and the one I bought off fleabay is no good.

Darren69 · 11-04-2021, 04:22 PM

I don't know if they do one for the earlier carby bikes but I've had my eye on one of these for a while now as I think the standard ones are pretty crappy: -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Bi...0/231025584445

Not cheap mind.

motomartin11 · 11-04-2021, 04:44 PM

Thanks . Nice but as you say not cheap. If money were no object.......I'd be quite content with the OE one -not the spring up type however! There is a M400 one on fleabay with switch and mount but I was hoping to get just the stand at the right price.

Martin C · 16-04-2021, 04:27 PM

Any local welder (= independent car bodyshop or workshop) will be able to quickly and cheaply weld on a new foot, in which case it could perhaps usefully be made a bit larger. If necessary, you could then add a fairly thick rubber base to it by means of a couple of self-tappers (bodger - moi?).

I had to add a rubber base to mine many years ago, after I fitted a centre-stand which necessarily uses the same mounting bolts and thus altered the side-stand's geometry, leaning the bike over to a scary degree.

motomartin11 · 16-04-2021, 05:28 PM

Well thanks. I've given it a few days and swallowed the bullet and bought the only used UK one I could find off fleabay : £60 with the mount and switch. I did offer £45 but got no response. The other one I bought before had been modded - a thread had been inserted at the broken off foot and a thin plate screwed in but it was at the wrong angle and the bike was leaning at a somewhat jaunty angle. I tried this morning to make it safer but to no avail so I decided for the sake of peace of mind I would get the standard one with the undamaged foot.

Flip · 16-04-2021, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motomartin11

...I'd be quite content with the OE one -not the spring up type however!

You can just cut the head off the protruding bolt (there was a modified pivot bolt available once upon a time) to stop the flip up action.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin C

Any local welder (= independent car bodyshop or workshop) will be able to quickly and cheaply weld on a new foot

As long as they can weld Alloy of course as Ducati didn’t change the stands to steel until 1999/2000ish.

larsen · 18-04-2021, 10:36 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-90...AAAOSwsZJbO5OD
This is the non flip up mod to use, could not quickly find the Monster one. I bought and fitted one to my 750,sure they must be available, cured all those oops I've fallen over incidents.

motomartin11 · 19-04-2021, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larsen

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-90...AAAOSwsZJbO5OD
This is the non flip up mod to use, could not quickly find the Monster one. I bought and fitted one to my 750,sure they must be available, cured all those oops I've fallen over incidents.

Thanks for posting that up.

Martin C · 20-04-2021, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larsen

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-90...AAAOSwsZJbO5OD
This is the non flip up mod to use, could not quickly find the Monster one. I bought and fitted one to my 750,sure they must be available, cured all those oops I've fallen over incidents.

My oops moments tend to be riding off with the sidestand still down: I did this twice today! In my defence, investigation has since revelaled the stand was sticking partially down after being casually kicked backwards whilst sitting on the bike prior to setting off. That has now been fixed, so I'll need another excuse for next time!

motomartin11 · 22-04-2021, 04:36 PM

The new side stand ass'y has arrived. Bolted straight on so all's now well.

PPuxley · 26-04-2021, 04:41 PM

Ive got a bust end on mine, too. Will be going to see my Tig welding mate! But this whole riding off with it down bothers me. Im used to rolling the Jota off the centre stand and away we go, Im sure Im going to forget the side stand.
Im trying to think of some electronic circuit (probably Arduino based) that will read the neutral switch and the stand up switch and cut the ignition if both are "off". But need to think through the consequences of the engine "stalling" when you put it in 1st with the stand down...something like toppling over because you havent moved forward as you expected. Or can they be made to flip up automatically when not under load. They call that the suicide stand on the Jota, because you sit on it and forget , lean it over to get off again and over she goes.
Hopefully someone will give me the simple solution

crust · 26-04-2021, 07:38 PM

You have two options:

1. There's a spring up option for the sidestand that retracts when you take the weight off it.

2. There's a sidestand down light switch down by the sidestand which should light up when the stands down. You could wire that to the ignition circuit.

crust · 26-04-2021, 07:50 PM

Wiring diagram (cheers slob) the sidestand switch is bottom centre.

http://www.thelasturl.net/UKMOC/m900_wiring_colour.png

utopia · 26-04-2021, 10:31 PM

For many years now, I've been running a diode fitted between the neutral switch and the sidestand relay, which allows the bike to run when in neutral with the sidestand down but cuts the ignition if a gear is selected with the stand still down.
This is on a yr2000 M750 with the non-flip-up stand. I have no personal experience of the flip-up type.
There are (or at least there were) kits available from Electraeon (and possibly others) which work on the same principle.
Also the diy version of the mod was detailed in practical sportsbikes a while back.
See this thread for details.
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...idestand+diode
Or search (sidestand diode) for earlier threads on the subject.
I dunno how this fits in with the flip-up system, but it may be of interest.

Flip · 27-04-2021, 08:13 AM

I’d be very wary of wiring any form of ignition cut out to the neutral light circuit- given the switch’s history of going rogue.

You can tell easily when neutral is selected and so I gave up trying to fix the light and now I think my bike has done the last thirty thousand miles ‘in neutral’ according to the dash

11-04-2021, 04:18 PM	#1
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	M750 Side Stand Anyone got a side stand for a '96 MY they would be willing to sell please? Mine has lost the foot at the end and the one I bought off fleabay is no good.

11-04-2021, 04:22 PM	#2
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	I don't know if they do one for the earlier carby bikes but I've had my eye on one of these for a while now as I think the standard ones are pretty crappy: - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Bi...0/231025584445 Not cheap mind. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

16-04-2021, 04:27 PM	#4
Martin C Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burton on Trent Bike: M900 Posts: 244	Any local welder (= independent car bodyshop or workshop) will be able to quickly and cheaply weld on a new foot, in which case it could perhaps usefully be made a bit larger. If necessary, you could then add a fairly thick rubber base to it by means of a couple of self-tappers (bodger - moi?). I had to add a rubber base to mine many years ago, after I fitted a centre-stand which necessarily uses the same mounting bolts and thus altered the side-stand's geometry, leaning the bike over to a scary degree. __________________ Owning a Monsta is not the beginning of the end, but it may well be the end of the beginning....

18-04-2021, 10:36 PM	#7
larsen Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Caernarfon Bike: M750 Posts: 40	https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-90...AAAOSwsZJbO5OD This is the non flip up mod to use, could not quickly find the Monster one. I bought and fitted one to my 750,sure they must be available, cured all those oops I've fallen over incidents. __________________ '40 Indian Chief, '80 Moto Guzzi Le Mans MK 2, '97 Buell S1 Lightning, '98 Ducati M750 Monster

26-04-2021, 04:41 PM	#11
PPuxley Registered User Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Reading Bike: M900 Posts: 600	Ive got a bust end on mine, too. Will be going to see my Tig welding mate! But this whole riding off with it down bothers me. Im used to rolling the Jota off the centre stand and away we go, Im sure Im going to forget the side stand. Im trying to think of some electronic circuit (probably Arduino based) that will read the neutral switch and the stand up switch and cut the ignition if both are "off". But need to think through the consequences of the engine "stalling" when you put it in 1st with the stand down...something like toppling over because you havent moved forward as you expected. Or can they be made to flip up automatically when not under load. They call that the suicide stand on the Jota, because you sit on it and forget , lean it over to get off again and over she goes. Hopefully someone will give me the simple solution __________________ Golf-My favourite game. While my wife plays I'm in the workshop.

11-04-2021, 04:44 PM	#3
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Thanks . Nice but as you say not cheap. If money were no object.......I'd be quite content with the OE one -not the spring up type however! There is a M400 one on fleabay with switch and mount but I was hoping to get just the stand at the right price.

16-04-2021, 05:28 PM	#5
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	Well thanks. I've given it a few days and swallowed the bullet and bought the only used UK one I could find off fleabay : £60 with the mount and switch. I did offer £45 but got no response. The other one I bought before had been modded - a thread had been inserted at the broken off foot and a thin plate screwed in but it was at the wrong angle and the bike was leaning at a somewhat jaunty angle. I tried this morning to make it safer but to no avail so I decided for the sake of peace of mind I would get the standard one with the undamaged foot.

22-04-2021, 04:36 PM	#10
motomartin11 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: stourbridge Bike: M750 Posts: 352	The new side stand ass'y has arrived. Bolted straight on so all's now well.

26-04-2021, 07:38 PM	#12
crust rattles when he walks Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in the comfy chair,moved furniture around Bike: M900 Posts: 1,065	You have two options: 1. There's a spring up option for the sidestand that retracts when you take the weight off it. 2. There's a sidestand down light switch down by the sidestand which should light up when the stands down. You could wire that to the ignition circuit.

26-04-2021, 07:50 PM	#13
crust rattles when he walks Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in the comfy chair,moved furniture around Bike: M900 Posts: 1,065	Wiring diagram (cheers slob) the sidestand switch is bottom centre. http://www.thelasturl.net/UKMOC/m900_wiring_colour.png

26-04-2021, 10:31 PM	#14
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	For many years now, I've been running a diode fitted between the neutral switch and the sidestand relay, which allows the bike to run when in neutral with the sidestand down but cuts the ignition if a gear is selected with the stand still down. This is on a yr2000 M750 with the non-flip-up stand. I have no personal experience of the flip-up type. There are (or at least there were) kits available from Electraeon (and possibly others) which work on the same principle. Also the diy version of the mod was detailed in practical sportsbikes a while back. See this thread for details. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...idestand+diode Or search (sidestand diode) for earlier threads on the subject. I dunno how this fits in with the flip-up system, but it may be of interest.

27-04-2021, 08:13 AM	#15
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	I’d be very wary of wiring any form of ignition cut out to the neutral light circuit- given the switch’s history of going rogue. You can tell easily when neutral is selected and so I gave up trying to fix the light and now I think my bike has done the last thirty thousand miles ‘in neutral’ according to the dash __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!