s2r or 695? - Page 2

SteveP · 20-10-2014, 07:10 PM

I bought an S2R only a few weeks ago so can only offer a limited amount of views on this, the 695 I know very little of. I also have not been riding for 10 years due to back problems,work etc, so reluctantly sold a Laverda triple last year. Being short and big boned the Monsters looked good with the seat height and size, I had £3500 to spend and looked at several aircooled 750's, 900's before discovering the s2. I did a lot of homework before parting with my money,a lot of hours spent on this forum, the knowledge and advice from people on here is superb. Performance is plenty without needing to rev it too much, no power band as such, just smooth pulling up to 120 or so, it's satisfying, not overly quick but enough for me, I'm not a fast rider anyway.Front brake at first seemed really good, now I'm getting used to the bike it does lack feel, used hard in the wet it can lock the wheel, but it's not bad by any means and can be upgraded apparently. Rear brake is poor, will look into this, may just be the pads. Clutch is very light although I have read tales of woe on the forums, no point in worrying about it as it works well now. The plastic petrol tank is the one issue that concerns me,it has swollen so the catch rubs on the ignition and the rubber pads don't sit on the frame, still opens though , providing it does not worsen. Mine has a full service history and all the keys, many do not, I would avoid these. Overall, very pleased, very easy to ride,non bikers admire the looks (red/white stripe) early days but would not hesitate to recommend.

Funkatronic · 20-10-2014, 07:19 PM

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Funk 695 has same callipers as 900ie/s2r1000, s2r 800 has smaller callipers.

don't think thats right lucas, I'm pretty sure ducati put the smaller 2 pistons callipers on later 620's 695 and s2r 800

see here

jonyb, i don't think you will be disappointed with either

Saint aka ML · 20-10-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Funkatronic

don't think thats right lucas, I'm pretty sure ducati put the smaller 2 pistons callipers on later 620's 695 and s2r 800

see here

jonyb, i don't think you will be disappointed with either

You know what you are correct there. I keep on forgetting I have a 620ie with 695 engine.

I did however just notice that s2r 800 is 179kg weight while 695 is 168kg so 695 has better power to weight ratio. My good that single side adds 11kg!! Fat ass comes to mind.

I would personally still go for 695 due to looks alone and I would upgrade the brakes ASAP.

utopia · 20-10-2014, 08:15 PM

For me, the problems with the S2R would be the single sider (I don't like the engineering or the maintenance implications) and the plastic tank.
Dunno if the 695 tank is plastic or not.
I run a carby M750, cos I don't like too many electronics.....and it has a steel tank and double sided swinger.
I got it shortly after a return to bikes about 10yrs ago, love it, and will keep it forever.
I would say that, broadly speaking there's probably not a lot of difference between the three, on the road, and I can therefore confirm that you are very likely to love it too, whichever you choose.

ps. note that 750s can be had for under £2k nowadays, and have pretty much stopped depreciating.
Might be worth considering...?
There is an injected version.

Saint aka ML · 20-10-2014, 08:17 PM

There is also a 800 injected so same engine as s2r 800 but 11kg less weight as proper swing arm

20-10-2014, 08:22 PM

I much prefer the looks of the S2R, that's why I bought one. I find the power of the 800 to be plenty fast enough for my abilities. The plastic tank does not seem to have swollen at all, still latches down fine.

It is my first bike with a single sided swingarm and I love the way it looks, also like how easy it is to adjust the chain.

Dirty · 20-10-2014, 08:25 PM

SSSA's rock

Saint aka ML · 20-10-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

SSSA's rock

What next isis rock et s? Come single sided is half a swing arm

Funkatronic · 21-10-2014, 08:55 AM

sssa are great, while you are struggling with your wheel alignment and fiddling with spacers etc, my wheel is on and I'm gone

Dirty · 21-10-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint aka ML

What next isis rock et s? Come single sided is half a swing arm

Yes, ISIS do rock!

21-10-2014, 12:25 PM

Now't wrong with S.S.S.A, It copes with my fat ass

Plus its a bloody work of Art

Alan H

Saint aka ML · 21-10-2014, 05:12 PM

Symmetry is work of art, sssa is just unfinished symmetry

utopia · 21-10-2014, 05:47 PM

Sorry, I didn't mean to turn the thread into a discussion about whether single siders are better than double siders...I was just pointing out that its one of the major points for you to make your own mind up about.
Oh, and another thing with the plastic tank is that it won't take a magnetic tankbag, and luggage space is at a premium on a monster (other tankbag styles are available, but they're not as simple to use).

Dirty · 21-10-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint aka ML

Symmetry is work of art, sssa is just unfinished symmetry

Yes but I could use that argument to state that all bikes are missing 2 wheels!

21-10-2014, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

SSSA's rock

And are a POP to adjust, in my limited experience chain needs less adjustment

20-10-2014, 07:10 PM	#16
SteveP Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: IPSWICH Bike: S2r Posts: 29	s2r v 695 I bought an S2R only a few weeks ago so can only offer a limited amount of views on this, the 695 I know very little of. I also have not been riding for 10 years due to back problems,work etc, so reluctantly sold a Laverda triple last year. Being short and big boned the Monsters looked good with the seat height and size, I had £3500 to spend and looked at several aircooled 750's, 900's before discovering the s2. I did a lot of homework before parting with my money,a lot of hours spent on this forum, the knowledge and advice from people on here is superb. Performance is plenty without needing to rev it too much, no power band as such, just smooth pulling up to 120 or so, it's satisfying, not overly quick but enough for me, I'm not a fast rider anyway.Front brake at first seemed really good, now I'm getting used to the bike it does lack feel, used hard in the wet it can lock the wheel, but it's not bad by any means and can be upgraded apparently. Rear brake is poor, will look into this, may just be the pads. Clutch is very light although I have read tales of woe on the forums, no point in worrying about it as it works well now. The plastic petrol tank is the one issue that concerns me,it has swollen so the catch rubs on the ignition and the rubber pads don't sit on the frame, still opens though , providing it does not worsen. Mine has a full service history and all the keys, many do not, I would avoid these. Overall, very pleased, very easy to ride,non bikers admire the looks (red/white stripe) early days but would not hesitate to recommend.

20-10-2014, 08:17 PM	#20
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	There is also a 800 injected so same engine as s2r 800 but 11kg less weight as proper swing arm __________________ "I am Lucazade"

20-10-2014, 08:25 PM	#22
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	SSSA's rock __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

21-10-2014, 05:12 PM	#27
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	Symmetry is work of art, sssa is just unfinished symmetry __________________ "I am Lucazade"

20-10-2014, 08:15 PM	#19
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	For me, the problems with the S2R would be the single sider (I don't like the engineering or the maintenance implications) and the plastic tank. Dunno if the 695 tank is plastic or not. I run a carby M750, cos I don't like too many electronics.....and it has a steel tank and double sided swinger. I got it shortly after a return to bikes about 10yrs ago, love it, and will keep it forever. I would say that, broadly speaking there's probably not a lot of difference between the three, on the road, and I can therefore confirm that you are very likely to love it too, whichever you choose. ps. note that 750s can be had for under £2k nowadays, and have pretty much stopped depreciating. Might be worth considering...? There is an injected version.

20-10-2014, 08:22 PM	#21
lewis Guest Posts: n/a	I much prefer the looks of the S2R, that's why I bought one. I find the power of the 800 to be plenty fast enough for my abilities. The plastic tank does not seem to have swollen at all, still latches down fine. It is my first bike with a single sided swingarm and I love the way it looks, also like how easy it is to adjust the chain.

21-10-2014, 08:55 AM	#24
Funkatronic another year another bike Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 1,597	sssa are great, while you are struggling with your wheel alignment and fiddling with spacers etc, my wheel is on and I'm gone

21-10-2014, 12:25 PM	#26
Fatal Guest Posts: n/a	Now't wrong with S.S.S.A, It copes with my fat ass Plus its a bloody work of Art Alan H

21-10-2014, 05:47 PM	#28
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Sorry, I didn't mean to turn the thread into a discussion about whether single siders are better than double siders...I was just pointing out that its one of the major points for you to make your own mind up about. Oh, and another thing with the plastic tank is that it won't take a magnetic tankbag, and luggage space is at a premium on a monster (other tankbag styles are available, but they're not as simple to use).