What do you think

Kato · 27-08-2020, 08:39 AM

I really like this, great price for what looks like a lot of fun

https://www.heraldmotorcompany.com/our-bikes/brute-500/

27-08-2020, 09:14 AM

looks decent Rob, no need for a tail chop debate on that design! wasn't aware of these guys, around since 2008 though.

utopia · 27-08-2020, 10:08 AM

I hadn't heard of them either.
I like the bike, but that's probably more because I like the general concept of a 40.odd HP single in "street scrambler" trim than because of this particular incarnation.
Somehow I can't forgive it for having a scant front mudguard and, more particularly, no rear one at all.
That rather smacks of style over substance to me.
I guess it plays to the market though, which is necessary in order for business survival.
Overall, its the sort of bike that I could see myself buying ... if I hadn't already built my own version (with no water-cooling and yes, proper mudguards).
Then again I would probably also look at something like a KTM Duke or whatever CCM are offering these days.

Darren69 · 27-08-2020, 10:28 AM

https://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/bike...tion-spitfire/

mickj · 27-08-2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Darren69

https://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/bike...tion-spitfire/

12.5k for a single, not for me.

Luddite · 27-08-2020, 10:47 AM

I like it too. I remember reading about it a couple of years ago when the concept was announced. It was planned that virtually all bar the motor would be British made.

I like the lines and think it shares elements with the new Triumph Trident - namely the tail and scalloped tank.

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Originally Posted by utopia

Overall, its the sort of bike that I could see myself buying ... if I hadn't already built my own version (with no water-cooling and yes, proper mudguards).
Then again I would probably also look at something like a KTM Duke or whatever CCM are offering these days.

Have you considered the Fantic, (which I've been tempted by)? Water-cooled though, unfortunately.

Darren69 · 27-08-2020, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mjgt

12.5k for a single, not for me.

I know, very salty and that's the base model! it's another 2K if you want the sports exhaust and 4.5K for Ohlins kit.

utopia · 27-08-2020, 01:50 PM

Actually, having refreshed my memory of the various guises of the CCM Spitfire and the KTM Duke, and also seen the offering from Fantic that Luddite flagged up, I think I like the Herald best out of all of them.
I did slightly accuse it of style over substance but compared to the competition its actually by far the least afflicted in that department.
And for the price, its a relative steal.
So yes, it scores pretty highly in my book.
And I'm sure you could graft on a rear hugger somehow.

Albie · 27-08-2020, 02:27 PM

Just 10hp more than an old srx400 it's very similar concept. It's good price and pretty cool but I dont like the openness under the seat. Too empty by design for me.

Nasher · 27-08-2020, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Albie

I dont like the openness under the seat. Too empty by design for me.

I spent many hours in the shed and probably a considerable amount of money trying to achieve that look monoshocking classic Z1000s in the 90's.

Nasher

Darkness · 27-08-2020, 03:20 PM

It reminds me a little of the old CZ 250:

Mr Gazza · 27-08-2020, 04:28 PM

One of our Norfolk Members has a Herald 125.
It's is all neat and tidy, looks well made and does what it says on the tin.

The Brute looks like a lot of fun and seems to be begging to be customised. Nothing there that some mudguards and splash of colour here and there wouldn't sort out.

Are those tyres tubed?

Blah blah · 27-08-2020, 05:52 PM

I'll bet a packet of virtual hobnobs that the Triumph will end up with a great big piece of plastic hanging below the seat to hold the number plate and this will be closely followed by lots of after market tail tidies...

As an alternative, the Royal Enfield Himalayan keeps catching my eye as something different to the Monster for slowly pottering around the Cornish roads, air cooled, 400cc and a nice comfy riding position (important when you get to my age

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Nickj · 27-08-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blah blah

As an alternative, the Royal Enfield Himalayan keeps catching my eye as something different to the Monster for slowly pottering around the Cornish roads, air cooled, 400cc and a nice comfy riding position (important when you get to my age

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LOL Get a 748 ace potterer, well maybe less than you'd like. A younf persons tool you might think... Oh no you just need to be young at heart

Jez900ie · 27-08-2020, 09:40 PM

The Fantic Cabalero is all round better looking, faster (its red) and cheaper - I'd quite like one. Looks like they & Brute share an engine?

27-08-2020, 08:39 AM	#1
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,222	What do you think I really like this, great price for what looks like a lot of fun https://www.heraldmotorcompany.com/our-bikes/brute-500/ __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime"

27-08-2020, 10:28 AM	#4
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,022	https://www.ccm-motorcycles.com/bike...tion-spitfire/ __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

27-08-2020, 02:27 PM	#9
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,030	Just 10hp more than an old srx400 it's very similar concept. It's good price and pretty cool but I dont like the openness under the seat. Too empty by design for me. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

27-08-2020, 03:20 PM	#11
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	It reminds me a little of the old CZ 250: __________________ Original and Best since 1993

27-08-2020, 04:28 PM	#12
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,805	One of our Norfolk Members has a Herald 125. It's is all neat and tidy, looks well made and does what it says on the tin. The Brute looks like a lot of fun and seems to be begging to be customised. Nothing there that some mudguards and splash of colour here and there wouldn't sort out. Are those tyres tubed? __________________

27-08-2020, 09:14 AM	#2
Moco1961 Guest Posts: n/a	looks decent Rob, no need for a tail chop debate on that design! wasn't aware of these guys, around since 2008 though.

27-08-2020, 10:08 AM	#3
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	I hadn't heard of them either. I like the bike, but that's probably more because I like the general concept of a 40.odd HP single in "street scrambler" trim than because of this particular incarnation. Somehow I can't forgive it for having a scant front mudguard and, more particularly, no rear one at all. That rather smacks of style over substance to me. I guess it plays to the market though, which is necessary in order for business survival. Overall, its the sort of bike that I could see myself buying ... if I hadn't already built my own version (with no water-cooling and yes, proper mudguards). Then again I would probably also look at something like a KTM Duke or whatever CCM are offering these days.

27-08-2020, 01:50 PM	#8
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,545	Actually, having refreshed my memory of the various guises of the CCM Spitfire and the KTM Duke, and also seen the offering from Fantic that Luddite flagged up, I think I like the Herald best out of all of them. I did slightly accuse it of style over substance but compared to the competition its actually by far the least afflicted in that department. And for the price, its a relative steal. So yes, it scores pretty highly in my book. And I'm sure you could graft on a rear hugger somehow.

27-08-2020, 05:52 PM	#13
Blah blah Upsetting normal people.. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portreath Bike: S2r Posts: 833	I'll bet a packet of virtual hobnobs that the Triumph will end up with a great big piece of plastic hanging below the seat to hold the number plate and this will be closely followed by lots of after market tail tidies... As an alternative, the Royal Enfield Himalayan keeps catching my eye as something different to the Monster for slowly pottering around the Cornish roads, air cooled, 400cc and a nice comfy riding position (important when you get to my age ) __________________ Power is nothing without control... I have neither !

27-08-2020, 09:40 PM	#15
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	The Fantic Cabalero is all round better looking, faster (its red) and cheaper - I'd quite like one. Looks like they & Brute share an engine? __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed