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Albie · 13-01-2008, 04:19 PM

Shandy do you think its stuck in bearings or swingarm. Do I heat up swingarm. Heating up shaft will make it tighter wont it.

13-01-2008, 04:23 PM

reet i had exactly the same problems (bar the angel grinder one)

give me a moment il take some photos ...

13-01-2008, 04:36 PM

what you need to do is remove this bit from the swig arm

removing the bolt isn't enough and taking out the pinch type bit really helped on mine

i snapped exhaust studs on my front an all if there's enough of the stud still sticking out my favourite method of removal is to hammer on a tight fitting socket

told ya gratuitous hammer use required

uh use more release oil on the pinch cotter things and see if you can remove anoy more corrosion off the exhaust stud before 'hammer time'

13-01-2008, 04:38 PM

umm also having replaced two exhaust studs I wonder about doing the other one (just for fun like) as the threads look a tad used

Albie · 13-01-2008, 05:05 PM

So you think I should remove cotter pin type clamps. I still wonder whether the bearings are holding. I will try again tomorrow. Much thanks

CK & AK · 13-01-2008, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albie

So you think I should remove cotter pin type clamps. I still wonder whether the bearings are holding. I will try again tomorrow. Much thanks

Albie I thought I mentioned this to you yesterday mate about taking the cotter pins out

sorry to hear about the exhaust bolts, what a pain for you

AK

Albie · 13-01-2008, 06:40 PM

Ah yes you did but I didnt realise they were inside there. I got the bolt out and thought it would look different. Thought it was too easy. Wil try again tomorrow nite. Usual manual doesnt show detail. Exhaust shouldnt be too much of a problem. At least its at the front and not rear one with poor acccess.
Managed to get a wheel.

http://www.ducati.com/doc/catalogue/S4_Eu-02.pdf
As per usual no real details on what parts look like. Helps a bit though. How did you extract them scotty

13-01-2008, 09:11 PM

with a hammer

put the bolt back in but don't nip it up leave a few mm slack so that when you hit the top of the bolt with a hammer it should knock the threaded cotter pin out, gradually unwind the bolt to knock it further through (think I used a longer bolt for this bit)

then the other side is more difficult (in my experience as there's no thread to it) I used same bolt and hammer to gradually drift the other pin out from the other side

gary tompkins · 13-01-2008, 09:18 PM

Albie, swingarm spindle is a PITA to get out, but a doddle compared to getting it back in again... that really is fun

Try doing it with an extra 50kg of trike subframe welded on for a laugh

I had to replace both front exhaust studs on trike. Both nuts were rusted solid and chewed up, but managed to wind studs out with mole grips. Rear cylinder was ok but clamp bolt on downpipe was seized, and had to be attacked with dremel.

13-01-2008, 09:34 PM

I'd offer to come down and hit your bike with a hammer for you , but its a bit far, did I mention I like hitting things with hammers ~:?

Albie · 14-01-2008, 07:11 PM

These cotters deffo need to come out then. I got home late tonite so tomorrows the time. Scotty if you have a home number could you pm me. Maybe could have a chat.

GaryT you can home and help if you like LOL. I had to angle grind that clamp. Ooops went into the exhaust too. Did it blind

14-01-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty

I'd offer to come down and hit your bike with a hammer for you , but its a bit far, did I mention I like hitting things with hammers ~:?

Ahhh, how I miss the unique North East sports.

gary tompkins · 14-01-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albie

These cotters deffo need to come out then. I got home late tonite so tomorrows the time. Scotty if you have a home number could you pm me. Maybe could have a chat.

GaryT you can home and help if you like LOL. I had to angle grind that clamp. Ooops went into the exhaust too. Did it blind

Albie it's all in the timing...

Repeat this little chant after me

Come...WHACK!...Out....SMACK!...You... WALLOP!...

...BANG!...

Works (nearly) every time

CK & AK · 15-01-2008, 06:51 AM

The joy then comes when you try to get the shims back between the swining arm and the engine as you cant see anything and you cant get your hand up there - I know as of late I've done a few of them

AK

gary tompkins · 15-01-2008, 06:11 PM

Alan,

You've spoilt the surprise - I was going to let Albie find out about the shims the hard way...fantastic fun to be had in a freezing cold, dark garage

13-01-2008, 04:19 PM	#16
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	Shandy do you think its stuck in bearings or swingarm. Do I heat up swingarm. Heating up shaft will make it tighter wont it. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

13-01-2008, 04:36 PM	#18
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	reet then what you need to do is remove this bit from the swig arm removing the bolt isn't enough and taking out the pinch type bit really helped on mine i snapped exhaust studs on my front an all if there's enough of the stud still sticking out my favourite method of removal is to hammer on a tight fitting socket told ya gratuitous hammer use required uh use more release oil on the pinch cotter things and see if you can remove anoy more corrosion off the exhaust stud before 'hammer time'

13-01-2008, 05:05 PM	#20
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	So you think I should remove cotter pin type clamps. I still wonder whether the bearings are holding. I will try again tomorrow. Much thanks __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

13-01-2008, 06:40 PM	#22
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	Ah yes you did but I didnt realise they were inside there. I got the bolt out and thought it would look different. Thought it was too easy. Wil try again tomorrow nite. Usual manual doesnt show detail. Exhaust shouldnt be too much of a problem. At least its at the front and not rear one with poor acccess. Managed to get a wheel. http://www.ducati.com/doc/catalogue/S4_Eu-02.pdf As per usual no real details on what parts look like. Helps a bit though. How did you extract them scotty __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/ Last edited by Albie; 13-01-2008 at 07:37 PM..

13-01-2008, 09:18 PM	#24
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Albie, swingarm spindle is a PITA to get out, but a doddle compared to getting it back in again... that really is fun Try doing it with an extra 50kg of trike subframe welded on for a laugh I had to replace both front exhaust studs on trike. Both nuts were rusted solid and chewed up, but managed to wind studs out with mole grips. Rear cylinder was ok but clamp bolt on downpipe was seized, and had to be attacked with dremel. __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong! Last edited by gary tompkins; 13-01-2008 at 09:20 PM..

13-01-2008, 04:23 PM	#17
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	reet i had exactly the same problems (bar the angel grinder one) give me a moment il take some photos ...

13-01-2008, 04:38 PM	#19
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	umm also having replaced two exhaust studs I wonder about doing the other one (just for fun like) as the threads look a tad used

13-01-2008, 09:11 PM	#23
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	with a hammer put the bolt back in but don't nip it up leave a few mm slack so that when you hit the top of the bolt with a hammer it should knock the threaded cotter pin out, gradually unwind the bolt to knock it further through (think I used a longer bolt for this bit) then the other side is more difficult (in my experience as there's no thread to it) I used same bolt and hammer to gradually drift the other pin out from the other side

13-01-2008, 09:34 PM	#25
Scotty Guest Posts: n/a	I'd offer to come down and hit your bike with a hammer for you , but its a bit far, did I mention I like hitting things with hammers ~:?

14-01-2008, 07:11 PM	#26
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,033	These cotters deffo need to come out then. I got home late tonite so tomorrows the time. Scotty if you have a home number could you pm me. Maybe could have a chat. GaryT you can home and help if you like LOL. I had to angle grind that clamp. Ooops went into the exhaust too. Did it blind __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

15-01-2008, 06:51 AM	#29
CK & AK flob-a-lob-a-lob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NW Surrey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 3,306	The joy then comes when you try to get the shims back between the swining arm and the engine as you cant see anything and you cant get your hand up there - I know as of late I've done a few of them AK

15-01-2008, 06:11 PM	#30
gary tompkins 1/2 man - 1/2 pogo-stick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dartford, Kent Bike: M900ie Posts: 7,241	Ahh yes... the shims Alan, You've spoilt the surprise - I was going to let Albie find out about the shims the hard way...fantastic fun to be had in a freezing cold, dark garage __________________ GT Fully paid up member of the S.A.S. (Scottoiler Appreciation Society) 27,000 miles on original chain - and still going strong!