1100 Evo mods - an addicts tale - Page 5

Luddite · 11-07-2017, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bazread

You've just racked another £4K to £5K shopping list Darren !!

That'll have to wait until the lottery win I think - and, since I don't do the lottery, that could be a long wait!

boris · 12-07-2017, 10:04 AM

How's about this to add to your (and the rest of us) list? Looks quite the biz, got this through the DuN site..

https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boo...ster-308p.html

Could be tempted myself if it wasn't for the nice man at Customs..

chris.p · 12-07-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boris

How's about this to add to your (and the rest of us) list? Looks quite the biz, got this through the DuN site..

https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boo...ster-308p.html

Could be tempted myself if it wasn't for the nice man at Customs..

By the time you have paid for customs, fitted it yourself or get some one to fit it for you, it would have been far easier and not much more to send you ecu to Neil at Cornerspeed, have him Rexxer flash it and have better results.

Luddite · 12-07-2017, 12:19 PM

That Booster Plug mod is interesting but, as Chris says, for the money, a Rexxer remap is better value as it also disables the lambdas and exhaust valve.

There's no real information on the Booster Plug site to suggest how it works but, looking at the installation instructions, I have a theory.

The closed loop system (i.e. when the lambdas control the fuelling) only operates once the engine is up to temperature. This is because you'd never get a cold engine to start and run on the weak lambda mixture (14.7 to 1 air/fuel ratio). I think the ECU uses the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor to decide when to switch to closed loop, rather than the oil temperature (incidentally, the Rexxer remap allows you to read the IAT on the dash).

The Booster Plug is installed between the standard IAT sensor and the ECU. It also comes with a second external air temperature probe (the NTC sensor), which must be mounted in cool air away from engine heat.

My guess is that the unit uses this NTC sensor to fool the ECU into thinking that the engine is always below the temperature at which it switches to closed loop and so the lambdas are ignored.

Anyone else got any theories?

Darren69 · 12-07-2017, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luddite

That Booster Plug mod is interesting but, as Chris says, for the money, a Rexxer remap is better value as it also disables the lambdas and exhaust valve.

There's no real information on the Booster Plug site to suggest how it works but, looking at the installation instructions, I have a theory.

The closed loop system (i.e. when the lambdas control the fuelling) only operates once the engine is up to temperature. This is because you'd never get a cold engine to start and run on the weak lambda mixture (14.7 to 1 air/fuel ratio). I think the ECU uses the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor to decide when to switch to closed loop, rather than the oil temperature (incidentally, the Rexxer remap allows you to read the IAT on the dash).

The Booster Plug is installed between the standard IAT sensor and the ECU. It also comes with a second external air temperature probe (the NTC sensor), which must be mounted in cool air away from engine heat.

My guess is that the unit uses this NTC sensor to fool the ECU into thinking that the engine is always below the temperature at which it switches to closed loop and so the lambdas are ignored.

Anyone else got any theories?

I think it might be the flux capacitor that makes time travel possible:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyWqxkaQpPw

Luddite · 28-09-2017, 01:10 PM

So I won the princely sum of £25 on the Premium Bonds last month and was wondering what to do with it; pay off the mortgage maybe? Or boost the pension fund? So I did what any sensible Ducati owner would do and blew it on some unnecessary goodies from Desmoworld!

I bought a set of their 'Superslim' allen screws for the tank cover http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/ducat...-m1100evo.html

As the name suggests, they have a slimmer, more rounded head than the originals and so look less obtrusive, especially with the carbon cover. They also have a collar machined into them, which removes the need for the separate 'top hat' spacers, which always drop out when I remove the tank panels.

Spot the difference...!

Ok, so no one but me is going to notice them, but I like them.

chris.p · 28-09-2017, 01:49 PM

Oooooh, pretty, wheres my wallet :-)

Luddite · 28-09-2017, 03:44 PM

That's what I like about Desmoworld, Chris, they always have something I don't need tempting me to spend money I don't have!

S4R Dude · 28-09-2017, 04:12 PM

They do look good though.

chris.p · 28-09-2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Luddite

That's what I like about Desmoworld, Chris, they always have something I don't need tempting me to spend money I don't have!

And I bet they dont lose there coating as soon as you show them an allen key

Albie · 28-09-2017, 08:59 PM

They look good. My carbon vani stuff needed them on my 1100s back in the day. They were poorly made around the bolt holes tbh.

Luddite · 16-02-2018, 05:33 PM

More spending!

A pair of Brembo Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads from WSC Performance (email simon@wscperformance.co.uk).

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=56141

Can't comment on their performance though, as I've not ventured out onto the salty roads yet this year.

chris.p · 16-02-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Luddite

More spending!

A pair of Brembo Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads from WSC Performance (email simon@wscperformance.co.uk).

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=56141

Can't comment on their performance though, as I've not ventured out onto the salty roads yet this year.

Stuck with stock discs, just changed the calipers (898) and pads for SBS track day pads.

Cant direct insert pic, link below

https://postimg.org/image/rnmj4dvll/

jonzi · 16-02-2018, 08:24 PM

chris.p · 16-02-2018, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzi

Cheers fella :-)

12-07-2017, 10:04 AM	#62
boris More Tools! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Forres Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 297	Booster Plug Mod How's about this to add to your (and the rest of us) list? Looks quite the biz, got this through the DuN site.. https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boo...ster-308p.html Could be tempted myself if it wasn't for the nice man at Customs.. __________________ Boris from Forres

28-09-2017, 01:10 PM	#66
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	So I won the princely sum of £25 on the Premium Bonds last month and was wondering what to do with it; pay off the mortgage maybe? Or boost the pension fund? So I did what any sensible Ducati owner would do and blew it on some unnecessary goodies from Desmoworld! I bought a set of their 'Superslim' allen screws for the tank cover http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/ducat...-m1100evo.html As the name suggests, they have a slimmer, more rounded head than the originals and so look less obtrusive, especially with the carbon cover. They also have a collar machined into them, which removes the need for the separate 'top hat' spacers, which always drop out when I remove the tank panels. Spot the difference...! Ok, so no one but me is going to notice them, but I like them. Last edited by Luddite; 01-07-2019 at 12:54 PM.. Reason: Escape from Photobucket

28-09-2017, 08:59 PM	#71
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	They look good. My carbon vani stuff needed them on my 1100s back in the day. They were poorly made around the bolt holes tbh. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

16-02-2018, 05:33 PM	#72
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	More spending! A pair of Brembo Serie Oro discs and sintered SA pads from WSC Performance (email simon@wscperformance.co.uk). http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=56141 Can't comment on their performance though, as I've not ventured out onto the salty roads yet this year. Last edited by Luddite; 13-04-2018 at 12:49 AM..

16-02-2018, 08:24 PM	#74
jonzi Mary Mary Quite Contrary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Berkhamsted Bike: M796 Posts: 1,398	__________________ #48

12-07-2017, 12:19 PM	#64
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	That Booster Plug mod is interesting but, as Chris says, for the money, a Rexxer remap is better value as it also disables the lambdas and exhaust valve. There's no real information on the Booster Plug site to suggest how it works but, looking at the installation instructions, I have a theory. The closed loop system (i.e. when the lambdas control the fuelling) only operates once the engine is up to temperature. This is because you'd never get a cold engine to start and run on the weak lambda mixture (14.7 to 1 air/fuel ratio). I think the ECU uses the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor to decide when to switch to closed loop, rather than the oil temperature (incidentally, the Rexxer remap allows you to read the IAT on the dash). The Booster Plug is installed between the standard IAT sensor and the ECU. It also comes with a second external air temperature probe (the NTC sensor), which must be mounted in cool air away from engine heat. My guess is that the unit uses this NTC sensor to fool the ECU into thinking that the engine is always below the temperature at which it switches to closed loop and so the lambdas are ignored. Anyone else got any theories?

28-09-2017, 01:49 PM	#67
chris.p Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: lincoln Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 876	Oooooh, pretty, wheres my wallet :-)

28-09-2017, 03:44 PM	#68
Luddite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Southampton Bike: M1100evo Posts: 2,465	That's what I like about Desmoworld, Chris, they always have something I don't need tempting me to spend money I don't have!

28-09-2017, 04:12 PM	#69
S4R Dude Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vidouze Bike: S4r Posts: 138	They do look good though.