Hello all from Herts! Advice please!! - Page 2

29-04-2010, 07:04 PM

Thanks Funk! most helpful.

Some questions on the cans pls -

Does removing the CAT pose problems at MOT time?

Do you get hp increase from removing CAT or is that only obtained by remapping the ecu? Will just fitting slip ons improve hp and performance?

Is it possible to buy the sils and fit link pipe to remove cat at a later date once funds are available?

Brakes -

I think the brakes are ok at present but JP says may be a good idea to upgrade. I am 12 stone. I have not had the benefit of trying larger discs etc but aim to keep this bike for a long time. Would you say in your exp that this is an essential upgrade at some point as I do hear the s2r is not famed for its front end.

Cheers again all for your continued advice and thoughts!!

Funkatronic · 05-05-2010, 12:39 PM

hi Jim

sorry for slow response
Does removing the CAT pose problems at MOT time?

never has for me but then my mechanic seems to be able to get my noisy cans through too

Do you get hp increase from removing CAT or is that only obtained by remapping the ecu? Will just fitting slip ons improve hp and performance?

not sure to be honest, others may know better but i reckon that some fuelling adjustment would be advisable if you install race cans. you dont want the bike running lean as this can cause engine damage in the long run.

i gained 4 HP with the stock cans and a decat pipe when my bike was dyno'd with the powercommenader. but there may be enough adjustment available with the stock ECU to improve things abit
the full race system got me an extra 6.5HP! but its too loud for many tracks :-(

Is it possible to buy the sils and fit link pipe to remove cat at a later date once funds are available?

yes this should work with slip ons

Brakes -

I think the brakes are ok at present but JP says may be a good idea to upgrade. I am 12 stone. I have not had the benefit of trying larger discs etc but aim to keep this bike for a long time. Would you say in your exp that this is an essential upgrade at some point as I do hear the s2r is not famed for its front end.

if you find the the stock brakes good enough then you have your answer. Im alot bigger than you and the stock brakes still stopped me.
Now i can lock the front wheel shockingly easily which isnt necessarily such a good thing on the road.
If your planning to track the bike at all, i think the brake upgrade is well worth the effort imho, this is the best upgrade i did after cans

hope this help
ali

05-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Hi Ali,
Many thanks for you input again.
I have taken the plunge and gone for the hi level carbon sils and have bought a CAT eliminator too.
Hopefully I should be fitting them this weekend. Joe seemed to think should be no probs with mapping so will see how I go.
As for brakes i am going to leave them for now as literally skint now lol!!
I will put some pics up after!
Cheers again!
Jim

05-05-2010, 02:13 PM

Hi Jim,
I just bought my first Monster and am loveing it!
Also I'm just down the road in Hemel so if you fancy a blast down to the Ace!

07-05-2010, 08:54 AM

Hi Shifter,
Cool! Nothing like getting on your first Monster!
I will message you when I am around for a blatt down to the ACE!

Mr.Number · 07-05-2010, 09:56 AM

Ali, did you have some trouble with the fueling having fitting the arrow system ( race system ? ).

In the process of buying the carbon full race system, but it appears that the dp ecu is a must for the bike to run properly.

Mines an 08 S2R 1000.

Cheers Kev

Funkatronic · 07-05-2010, 11:02 AM

Hi Kev

My Bike is from 2006 and has no lambda sensor therfore I had no fuelling issues when changing cans

from what i have read, as yours is 2008 the DP ECU is your only option if you want any other type of exhaust which adds a alot of wonga :-(
also I think the ECU is only available as a kit with the DP Termi exhausts which is not made for your bike anymore, picking one up 2nd hand might be a problem as i think the ECU needs to be coded to the bike when its installed but i could be wrong here

sorry to be the bearer(or confirmer) of bad news
ali

slob · 07-05-2010, 11:06 AM

I don't think the DP ECUs are coded...
but that does mean you lose you immobiliser.

09-09-2010, 11:58 AM

You could also try Dave Woods Racing in Aylesbury

Please ignore, landed in the wrong thread somehow.

09-09-2010, 01:46 PM

no probs mate thanks for the referral

09-09-2010, 02:30 PM

Saw a rather mint looking Black Monster leaving the J20 roundabout and into the village the other day, wouldn't be you by any chance?

09-09-2010, 05:40 PM

Hi there & welcome from another noob to the forum...

10-09-2010, 09:46 AM

It could well have been me - Mine is Black with orange strip and has hi level Sil moto cans with tail chop.

10-09-2010, 10:58 AM

Sounds like the one!

13-10-2010, 10:25 AM

Howdy Jungle 24, welcome aboard. Based in Hitchin so if you fancy a spin some time to Ace, or Cambridge area, feel free to message.

Best

29-04-2010, 07:04 PM	#16
Jungle24 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks Funk! most helpful. Some questions on the cans pls - Does removing the CAT pose problems at MOT time? Do you get hp increase from removing CAT or is that only obtained by remapping the ecu? Will just fitting slip ons improve hp and performance? Is it possible to buy the sils and fit link pipe to remove cat at a later date once funds are available? Brakes - I think the brakes are ok at present but JP says may be a good idea to upgrade. I am 12 stone. I have not had the benefit of trying larger discs etc but aim to keep this bike for a long time. Would you say in your exp that this is an essential upgrade at some point as I do hear the s2r is not famed for its front end. Cheers again all for your continued advice and thoughts!! Last edited by Jungle24; 30-04-2010 at 02:29 PM..

09-09-2010, 11:58 AM	#24
shifter Guest Posts: n/a	You could also try Dave Woods Racing in Aylesbury Please ignore, landed in the wrong thread somehow. Last edited by shifter; 09-09-2010 at 12:18 PM.. Reason: as above

09-09-2010, 05:40 PM	#27
JerryT Guest Posts: n/a	Hey there... Hi there & welcome from another noob to the forum...

05-05-2010, 12:39 PM	#17
Funkatronic another year another bike Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 1,597	hi Jim sorry for slow response Does removing the CAT pose problems at MOT time? never has for me but then my mechanic seems to be able to get my noisy cans through too Do you get hp increase from removing CAT or is that only obtained by remapping the ecu? Will just fitting slip ons improve hp and performance? not sure to be honest, others may know better but i reckon that some fuelling adjustment would be advisable if you install race cans. you dont want the bike running lean as this can cause engine damage in the long run. i gained 4 HP with the stock cans and a decat pipe when my bike was dyno'd with the powercommenader. but there may be enough adjustment available with the stock ECU to improve things abit the full race system got me an extra 6.5HP! but its too loud for many tracks :-( Is it possible to buy the sils and fit link pipe to remove cat at a later date once funds are available? yes this should work with slip ons Brakes - I think the brakes are ok at present but JP says may be a good idea to upgrade. I am 12 stone. I have not had the benefit of trying larger discs etc but aim to keep this bike for a long time. Would you say in your exp that this is an essential upgrade at some point as I do hear the s2r is not famed for its front end. if you find the the stock brakes good enough then you have your answer. Im alot bigger than you and the stock brakes still stopped me. Now i can lock the front wheel shockingly easily which isnt necessarily such a good thing on the road. If your planning to track the bike at all, i think the brake upgrade is well worth the effort imho, this is the best upgrade i did after cans hope this help ali

05-05-2010, 01:42 PM	#18
Jungle24 Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Ali, Many thanks for you input again. I have taken the plunge and gone for the hi level carbon sils and have bought a CAT eliminator too. Hopefully I should be fitting them this weekend. Joe seemed to think should be no probs with mapping so will see how I go. As for brakes i am going to leave them for now as literally skint now lol!! I will put some pics up after! Cheers again! Jim

05-05-2010, 02:13 PM	#19
shifter Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Jim, I just bought my first Monster and am loveing it! Also I'm just down the road in Hemel so if you fancy a blast down to the Ace!

07-05-2010, 08:54 AM	#20
Jungle24 Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Shifter, Cool! Nothing like getting on your first Monster! I will message you when I am around for a blatt down to the ACE!

07-05-2010, 09:56 AM	#21
Mr.Number Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: merseyside Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 168	Ali, did you have some trouble with the fueling having fitting the arrow system ( race system ? ). In the process of buying the carbon full race system, but it appears that the dp ecu is a must for the bike to run properly. Mines an 08 S2R 1000. Cheers Kev

07-05-2010, 11:02 AM	#22
Funkatronic another year another bike Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London Bike: S2r 1000 Posts: 1,597	Hi Kev My Bike is from 2006 and has no lambda sensor therfore I had no fuelling issues when changing cans from what i have read, as yours is 2008 the DP ECU is your only option if you want any other type of exhaust which adds a alot of wonga :-( also I think the ECU is only available as a kit with the DP Termi exhausts which is not made for your bike anymore, picking one up 2nd hand might be a problem as i think the ECU needs to be coded to the bike when its installed but i could be wrong here sorry to be the bearer(or confirmer) of bad news ali

07-05-2010, 11:06 AM	#23
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,736	I don't think the DP ECUs are coded... but that does mean you lose you immobiliser.

09-09-2010, 01:46 PM	#25
Jungle24 Guest Posts: n/a	no probs mate thanks for the referral

09-09-2010, 02:30 PM	#26
shifter Guest Posts: n/a	Saw a rather mint looking Black Monster leaving the J20 roundabout and into the village the other day, wouldn't be you by any chance?

10-09-2010, 09:46 AM	#28
Jungle24 Guest Posts: n/a	It could well have been me - Mine is Black with orange strip and has hi level Sil moto cans with tail chop.

10-09-2010, 10:58 AM	#29
shifter Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds like the one!

13-10-2010, 10:25 AM	#30
Gina Guest Posts: n/a	Howdy Jungle 24, welcome aboard. Based in Hitchin so if you fancy a spin some time to Ace, or Cambridge area, feel free to message. Best