Valve Shims - Page 2

03-09-2010, 07:03 AM

yeah spiders web cafe.. im in quarters here. its where im stationed..

10-10-2010, 06:55 PM

just to revive this thread as the monister is coming off the road at the end of the month... for stripping and spraying of the engine!!! and some help with the valve shims?

utopia · 17-10-2010, 02:26 AM

Only just spotted your last post. Offer still stands for borrow of micrometer. I've got a spare closing shim that you could practice on too. Will bring them if/when I'm over that way in the near future, or you could collect if you're in the Leicester area.

17-10-2010, 11:02 AM

no rush.. the bike isnt sorn until end of oct... but to be honest could do with your help if you have done it before.. so once i have the bike strippd and the heads off then i can give you a shout if you pm me your number? prob wont be until mid nov though...

utopia · 17-10-2010, 05:03 PM

Happy to help. I've only done it once before, but went VERY slowly, the main aim being to learn all the angles and pitfalls for future reference (cos I'm NEVER going to sell this bike), so I reckon I've got a pretty good handle on it now. Remind me via pm when you're ready and we can take it from there.
By the way, you mention taking the heads off.....No need for that. Just raise the tank, release the oil cooler fixings (leaving the pipes connected) and remove the rocker covers.
I'm assuming that you have a rear paddock stand so the engine can be turned over via the rear wheel...?

19-10-2010, 05:09 PM

im gonna remove head ans im gonna spray the engine up and put black barrels with aluminium grey heads and crank.... i have the paddock stand.. so it may be eassier once i have sprayed the engine and reassembled.. but i think its probably easier with the head off....

19-10-2010, 05:38 PM

I measured clearances and took my old shims + values for the clearances to my local Ducati dealer (JHP in Cov) and the parts guy measured up my old shims and gave me appropriate sized replacements. Luckily they was a tiny bit oversized, so I carefully ground em down a bit to correct measurements on a bit of 240 carberundum paper.

utopia · 20-10-2010, 03:37 AM

If the heads are coming off anyway, then doing the valve clearances will be a relative breeze.

20-10-2010, 05:54 PM

cool beans ill drop you a pm closer to the time

11-03-2011, 02:32 PM

update... heads are off.. i have a micrometer this weekend.. but i cant get this damn measuring tool! and im a little too tight to pay £24 for something ill use a couple of times..... any trusting people out there have one i can borrow?

11-03-2011, 06:37 PM

Never mind. Valves sorted!!!!!

16-04-2011, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slob

Stuck, here are the links to the YouTube videos and EMS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj3nSJGPZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQY1MRlmH4

http://www.emsduc.com/products.html

Anyone notice in the second vid that he torqued the top left valve cover cap head twice and forgot to torque down the top right...Ooops.

13-08-2011, 11:27 AM

Very interesting vids, wondered how the valve gear worked. Why did he push down the closing rocker to measure the closing clearance though? What force is he trying to overcome?

19-06-2012, 08:33 PM

Theres a closing spring that is looped around the pivot shaft, pushing down on the rocker arm removes any pressure the spring is applying.

Murray Mint · 20-05-2020, 09:50 PM

But where are you guys getting your shims from what with all this bloody COVID-19 and the likes and bike shops being shut?

I have a natty little Excel file that helps with the calculation if anyone is interested, it's not my work and originally it was used for an ST3. is there a way of uploading a file to the forum?

03-09-2010, 07:03 AM	#16
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	yeah spiders web cafe.. im in quarters here. its where im stationed..

10-10-2010, 06:55 PM	#17
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	just to revive this thread as the monister is coming off the road at the end of the month... for stripping and spraying of the engine!!! and some help with the valve shims?

17-10-2010, 02:26 AM	#18
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,559	Only just spotted your last post. Offer still stands for borrow of micrometer. I've got a spare closing shim that you could practice on too. Will bring them if/when I'm over that way in the near future, or you could collect if you're in the Leicester area.

17-10-2010, 11:02 AM	#19
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	no rush.. the bike isnt sorn until end of oct... but to be honest could do with your help if you have done it before.. so once i have the bike strippd and the heads off then i can give you a shout if you pm me your number? prob wont be until mid nov though...

17-10-2010, 05:03 PM	#20
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,559	Happy to help. I've only done it once before, but went VERY slowly, the main aim being to learn all the angles and pitfalls for future reference (cos I'm NEVER going to sell this bike), so I reckon I've got a pretty good handle on it now. Remind me via pm when you're ready and we can take it from there. By the way, you mention taking the heads off.....No need for that. Just raise the tank, release the oil cooler fixings (leaving the pipes connected) and remove the rocker covers. I'm assuming that you have a rear paddock stand so the engine can be turned over via the rear wheel...?

19-10-2010, 05:09 PM	#21
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	im gonna remove head ans im gonna spray the engine up and put black barrels with aluminium grey heads and crank.... i have the paddock stand.. so it may be eassier once i have sprayed the engine and reassembled.. but i think its probably easier with the head off....

19-10-2010, 05:38 PM	#22
Chris & Nean Guest Posts: n/a	I measured clearances and took my old shims + values for the clearances to my local Ducati dealer (JHP in Cov) and the parts guy measured up my old shims and gave me appropriate sized replacements. Luckily they was a tiny bit oversized, so I carefully ground em down a bit to correct measurements on a bit of 240 carberundum paper.

20-10-2010, 03:37 AM	#23
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,559	If the heads are coming off anyway, then doing the valve clearances will be a relative breeze.

20-10-2010, 05:54 PM	#24
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	cool beans ill drop you a pm closer to the time

11-03-2011, 02:32 PM	#25
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	update... heads are off.. i have a micrometer this weekend.. but i cant get this damn measuring tool! and im a little too tight to pay £24 for something ill use a couple of times..... any trusting people out there have one i can borrow?

11-03-2011, 06:37 PM	#26
analogue_rogue Guest Posts: n/a	Never mind. Valves sorted!!!!!

13-08-2011, 11:27 AM	#28
Si7 Guest Posts: n/a	Very interesting vids, wondered how the valve gear worked. Why did he push down the closing rocker to measure the closing clearance though? What force is he trying to overcome?

19-06-2012, 08:33 PM	#29
urbanfireblade Guest Posts: n/a	Theres a closing spring that is looped around the pivot shaft, pushing down on the rocker arm removes any pressure the spring is applying.

20-05-2020, 09:50 PM	#30
Murray Mint Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Crawley Bike: M900 Posts: 106	But where are you guys getting your shims from what with all this bloody COVID-19 and the likes and bike shops being shut? I have a natty little Excel file that helps with the calculation if anyone is interested, it's not my work and originally it was used for an ST3. is there a way of uploading a file to the forum?