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Old 27-08-2020, 10:14 PM   #16
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The cabalero name used to be associated with rather svelte competition bikes, that one is a bit lardy and probably bog at the first sign of anything mud like. The 80's featured the best of these, full chat 2T's, the only way to ride them was throttle at the stop and a great gollop of balls.
That new one is a bit like a half bastard sword compared to a rapier, both pointy at the end but .....

LOL OK I like Monsters but love a good competition motor 2T

The old RC 125 was a very sweet tool
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Old 27-08-2020, 10:22 PM   #17
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The Herald is a good looking bike, I do like the open look around the rear wheel, admittedly my 12r has a similar look.
Running around tight back roads or a urban environment would probably be where it's best at home.
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Old 28-08-2020, 12:17 AM   #18
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Looks like they & Brute share an engine?
Good spot, Jez. I think they share the same Zongshen NC450 motor, which itself is based on a Honda design.

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Old 28-08-2020, 06:52 AM   #19
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A bit of time and effort, buy a XS650 in a poor condition and you could end up with a street /flat tracker

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Surprised no one has mentioned the Husky.

https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.co...-701-2020.html
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Old 28-08-2020, 11:09 AM   #21
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I do like the Vitpilen and it's not badly priced too. I like the CCM Spitfire a bit more but not 6K more, that's too much for a bike like that. The beast would seem to be a good budget option but I think I would be swayed by the Vitpilen's better spec for a bit more $
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Old 28-08-2020, 01:21 PM   #22
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None of the above would ever be considered as swaps for my Monster though. If I ever wanted a lighter and less powerful bike I would be looking for a 750 or 900 Monster ie without a shadow of doubt.
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Old 28-08-2020, 04:37 PM   #23
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A bit of time and effort, buy a XS650 in a poor condition and you could end up with a street /flat tracker

That's pretty, although personally I'd probably change the headlight for a number board / headlight combo from a Mash Dirt Track 125 or similar and add some number boards on the side because racebike ! And it's nice to see someone doing something other than 'cafe racer'... got any more pictures?

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LOL Get a 748 ace potterer, well maybe less than you'd like. A younf persons tool you might think... Oh no you just need to be young at heart
A yellow 748 sps is the first on the lottery win bike buying list and would be purchased just after I buy a huge garage with a house attached
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Old 28-08-2020, 06:21 PM   #24
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The R's have an edge on handling but a negative on servicing, both handle amazingly well and are even comfy!!, think magic carpet with scarey fast corner entry speeds if you stop to think about it
Then if you have to think about it then you really should get a C50 or something more sedate
Yellow, is of course, the only real colour for them.
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Old 30-08-2020, 08:23 AM   #25
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None of the above would ever be considered as swaps for my Monster though. If I ever wanted a lighter and less powerful bike I would be looking for a 750 or 900 Monster ie without a shadow of doubt.

I haven't found anything thats significantly lighter, with sufficient umph, thats pretty enough or within my budget yet. The closest was a Bimota 500 injected 2T, but I know the bank manager would laugh at me!
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