Ducati Monster 900SIE - Page 2

Saint aka ML · 26-05-2016, 08:52 PM

I have same dash, hehe. Anyhu. Fuel light will not work that easy. It is not a simple on/off switch.

It is a resistance based sender. The hotter it gets (less fuel) the more it does something.

There is a adapter from Koso, well two. One does on/off with led. One does on/off on dash.

Saint aka ML · 26-05-2016, 09:01 PM

here

http://www.digital-speedos.co.uk/low...pter-528-p.asp

26-05-2016, 09:02 PM

It is a nice set up eh?

Hmm that's good to know though! Where could I find the on/off for the LED that i have fitted? As just now I'm just filling the tank every 100 miles

26-05-2016, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint aka ML

here

http://www.digital-speedos.co.uk/low...pter-528-p.asp

Nice! Top man

thanks for that!

14-06-2016, 09:04 PM

So since my last up date everything has just went downhill... as some will have seen from my other post one of the flywheel shims have been destroeyd and i think some of it is possibly in the gear drum as the bike is stuck in 4th

absolutely raging. Took the cover off in the hope that the dog leg was just stuck and sadly it was not!

The flywheel was loose because of the shim and had 5mm play..

found this lot in the alternator casing

this lot in the sump

and there is still some missing which as i say i think it's stuck in the gear drum

Then decided to remove the clutch and cover to see if there was any metal in there which there wasn't but there was a broken lug on the clutch hub

14-06-2016, 09:05 PM

is it supposed to be wet there?

lightened primary gear aye? lies as usual...

That's all for now, need to drop the engine and take it to someone to split and find the missing metal and sort out the gear drum!

Cheers,

Roo

Darren69 · 14-06-2016, 09:24 PM

So sorry to hear of your woes with this bike and its previous owner, who we found was one to fabricate the truth somewhat. I did wonder if he'd been so deep into the engine as to lighten everything, so probably a good thing that he did not. I'm pretty sure I think I have a useable clutch hub with all the posts intact that you could have if it would help you out of a spot as both of my Ducs now have aftermarket slipper jobbies. Give me a shout if you need one and I'll dig one out.

Dirty · 15-06-2016, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

So sorry to hear of your woes with this bike and its previous owner, who we found was one to fabricate the truth somewhat. I did wonder if he'd been so deep into the engine as to lighten everything, so probably a good thing that he did not.

I think he did go that deep into the engine, probably in an attempt to lighten stuff, but like most things he didn't finish the job properly and then cacked up putting it all back together again.

slob · 15-06-2016, 07:30 AM

Have a look at the big spring hooked into the pawl on the selector shaft, these are a common failure on high mileage bikes and will cause the stuck in gear symptom you describe. only about a fiver if you're not paying somone else for several hours strip & rebuild. You might get lucky.

I like your idiot light solution, very neat.

16-06-2016, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

So sorry to hear of your woes with this bike and its previous owner, who we found was one to fabricate the truth somewhat. I did wonder if he'd been so deep into the engine as to lighten everything, so probably a good thing that he did not. I'm pretty sure I think I have a useable clutch hub with all the posts intact that you could have if it would help you out of a spot as both of my Ducs now have aftermarket slipper jobbies. Give me a shout if you need one and I'll dig one out.

Yes I can fully see that myself now, time will tell if it does have lighter pistons/rods and internal gears... I still think he has been in there but again not to sure if i believe he has! Thanks for that buddy I will give you a shout

hoping to get a billet one but this could get me by if i get the engine sorted out quick!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty

I think he did go that deep into the engine, probably in an attempt to lighten stuff, but like most things he didn't finish the job properly and then cacked up putting it all back together again.

hahah sounds about right mate

will find out when I get this engine apart. Kind of hope it does have lightened stuff in there so I haven't been totally cheated

Quote:

Originally Posted by slob

Have a look at the big spring hooked into the pawl on the selector shaft, these are a common failure on high mileage bikes and will cause the stuck in gear symptom you describe. only about a fiver if you're not paying somone else for several hours strip & rebuild. You might get lucky.

I like your idiot light solution, very neat.

Excuse my lack of knowledge on this, but what is the pawl? Is that the spring on the back of the engine that is pushing the ball bearing into the fork drum? If so then that is fine. The bike is on 14k

I've decided to do the engine work myself, if i can do car engines i'm sure i can manage this hopefully... hah!

Thanks buddy was fair chuffed with myself on that one to

Cheers,

Roo

Darren69 · 16-06-2016, 06:45 AM

A billet clutch hub would definitely be better/lighter/stronger, even better still if you can pick up a cheap slipper. The difference to the standard clutch vs slipper is like night and day.

The only thing I can see from your pic that is lightened is the clutch basket, looks like an alloy one which may or may not have been standard anyway (depends on year/model).

Another easy lightening mod to free up some ponies is to fit one of these:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-BIL...qixA51EFKKPN9A

I could be wrong but it looks like yours is still the standard steel one.

slob · 16-06-2016, 07:04 AM

Pawl: the arm with the elbow in it (24 & 26) that sits just behind the flywheel, that connects the gear lever shaft to the selector drum. There's a very light spring at the elbow, the one that gives trouble is the beefy gear lever return spring at the bottom (27).

25-02-2017, 10:48 PM

So 8 months later here we are...

Bought another engine for the bike which arrived last week and changed the belts tonight along with putting the clutch off the monster onto the new engine

another plus is the mileage is almost identical to the bikes

The day it arrived:

Belt change and clutch swap over:

25-02-2017, 10:49 PM

More updates to come in the following weeks but the bike will be back out for spring

Cheers,

Roo

Mr Gazza · 25-02-2017, 11:12 PM

Clever idea to transport the engine in an old tyre.
Clever way for a breaker to get rid of their old tyres too.

26-05-2016, 08:52 PM	#16
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	I have same dash, hehe. Anyhu. Fuel light will not work that easy. It is not a simple on/off switch. It is a resistance based sender. The hotter it gets (less fuel) the more it does something. There is a adapter from Koso, well two. One does on/off with led. One does on/off on dash. __________________ "I am Lucazade"

26-05-2016, 09:01 PM	#17
Saint aka ML Junior ah to be young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,058	here http://www.digital-speedos.co.uk/low...pter-528-p.asp __________________ "I am Lucazade"

14-06-2016, 09:24 PM	#22
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	So sorry to hear of your woes with this bike and its previous owner, who we found was one to fabricate the truth somewhat. I did wonder if he'd been so deep into the engine as to lighten everything, so probably a good thing that he did not. I'm pretty sure I think I have a useable clutch hub with all the posts intact that you could have if it would help you out of a spot as both of my Ducs now have aftermarket slipper jobbies. Give me a shout if you need one and I'll dig one out. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

16-06-2016, 06:45 AM	#26
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	A billet clutch hub would definitely be better/lighter/stronger, even better still if you can pick up a cheap slipper. The difference to the standard clutch vs slipper is like night and day. The only thing I can see from your pic that is lightened is the clutch basket, looks like an alloy one which may or may not have been standard anyway (depends on year/model). Another easy lightening mod to free up some ponies is to fit one of these:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-BIL...qixA51EFKKPN9A I could be wrong but it looks like yours is still the standard steel one. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

16-06-2016, 07:04 AM	#27
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,735	Pawl: the arm with the elbow in it (24 & 26) that sits just behind the flywheel, that connects the gear lever shaft to the selector drum. There's a very light spring at the elbow, the one that gives trouble is the beefy gear lever return spring at the bottom (27). Last edited by slob; 16-06-2016 at 07:26 AM..

26-05-2016, 09:02 PM	#18
blackthorn Guest Posts: n/a	It is a nice set up eh? Hmm that's good to know though! Where could I find the on/off for the LED that i have fitted? As just now I'm just filling the tank every 100 miles

14-06-2016, 09:04 PM	#20
blackthorn Guest Posts: n/a	So since my last up date everything has just went downhill... as some will have seen from my other post one of the flywheel shims have been destroeyd and i think some of it is possibly in the gear drum as the bike is stuck in 4th absolutely raging. Took the cover off in the hope that the dog leg was just stuck and sadly it was not! The flywheel was loose because of the shim and had 5mm play.. found this lot in the alternator casing this lot in the sump and there is still some missing which as i say i think it's stuck in the gear drum Then decided to remove the clutch and cover to see if there was any metal in there which there wasn't but there was a broken lug on the clutch hub

14-06-2016, 09:05 PM	#21
blackthorn Guest Posts: n/a	is it supposed to be wet there? lightened primary gear aye? lies as usual... That's all for now, need to drop the engine and take it to someone to split and find the missing metal and sort out the gear drum! Cheers, Roo

15-06-2016, 07:30 AM	#24
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,735	Have a look at the big spring hooked into the pawl on the selector shaft, these are a common failure on high mileage bikes and will cause the stuck in gear symptom you describe. only about a fiver if you're not paying somone else for several hours strip & rebuild. You might get lucky. I like your idiot light solution, very neat.

25-02-2017, 10:48 PM	#28
blackthorn Guest Posts: n/a	So 8 months later here we are... Bought another engine for the bike which arrived last week and changed the belts tonight along with putting the clutch off the monster onto the new engine another plus is the mileage is almost identical to the bikes The day it arrived: Belt change and clutch swap over:

25-02-2017, 10:49 PM	#29
blackthorn Guest Posts: n/a	More updates to come in the following weeks but the bike will be back out for spring Cheers, Roo

25-02-2017, 11:12 PM	#30
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,972	Clever idea to transport the engine in an old tyre. Clever way for a breaker to get rid of their old tyres too. __________________