Alternative headlamps... - Page 11

Mr Gazza · 04-02-2018, 10:59 AM

I can imagine the thought process that lead to this being invented and produced, but it is kind of re-inventing the wheel.
I like simple and I just think that lights coming on and off whilst cornering would be a distraction for me. I'm looking for a lamp that has a carefully design, giving a good spread of light for all occasions.
It strikes me that the gubbins that makes this work is just something to go wrong when you least need it to.

My wife's Yeti has a feature that turns an extra driving lamp on, on one particular side, when the wheel is turned, supposedly to help you see round a corner better.
She thought that there was something wrong when she first noticed it, thinking that only one of the lamps was working.. intermittently! The feature was pointed out when she mentioned it at the following service.
I find it of very limited advantage and just distracting. Especially as to my mind it would be far better if it was the lamp on the outside of the bend that came on, angled across the car into the bend.

We had fun at work when she was looking for a Yeti.. " Hev she got a Yeti yet?" "No, she hent got a Yeti yet".
Then when it arrived and was Black, we all sang "Whoa Black Yeti. Bamalam."..

utopia · 04-02-2018, 11:10 AM

"All you need is ........"

Capo · 04-02-2018, 11:26 AM

My dads Cadillac had side illumination lights that came on with the indicators

Chriswilly · 04-02-2018, 12:18 PM

Afternoon all!
Jez -I fitted a H7 Osram 100/80 to Norah (standard original 7inch Bosch headlamp) and find it really good. Excellent flat cut-off on dip which illuminates all three lanes when running in the middle one.
Can see for miles on main beam.
The main thing is that it is 'natural' light and is easier to drive with. Passed the MOT without any comments two months ago.
The other point here is that the headlight seemed to have a 'misty' reflector which in fact is condensation on the inside of the glass - removed with cotton wool on a wooden 'spill' with isopropyl alchol. Don't try and clean the reflector - but you know this already.

Mr Gazza · 04-02-2018, 12:26 PM

How did you fit an H7 in an H4 fitting? (standard Bosch is not 7" btw)
The mist you found was probably smoke condensate? Why not clean the reflector?

Dukedesmo · 04-02-2018, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

My wife's Yeti has a feature that turns an extra driving lamp on, on one particular side, when the wheel is turned, supposedly to help you see round a corner better.
She thought that there was something wrong when she first noticed it, thinking that only one of the lamps was working.. intermittently! The feature was pointed out when she mentioned it at the following service.
I find it of very limited advantage and just distracting. Especially as to my mind it would be far better if it was the lamp on the outside of the bend that came on, angled across the car into the bend.

Cornering fog lights can be disabled if you find it distracting, although (unless in the car's setup menu) you need to use a VCDS cable to do it.

Darkness · 04-02-2018, 02:56 PM

The standard Bosch headlight lens is separate from the reflector, so you can give the insides a polish with a soft cloth to get the milky cloudiness off. You don't need the meths..

jerry · 04-02-2018, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

The standard Bosch headlight lens is separate from the reflector, so you can give the insides a polish with a soft cloth to get the milky cloudiness off. You don't need the meths..

my bosch units are sealed have to
do it like a gynecologist through the little hole !!!!!!

21-03-2018, 03:47 PM

Gazza. PM sent. Email to follow.

Dean

Evostu · 21-03-2018, 06:00 PM

Has anyone come up with a solution for the woefully inadequate headlight on the monster 1100 evo,if so would like to hear from you,stu

22-03-2018, 07:37 PM

Very expensive but I would recommend the set up from Motodemic.com

Dennis menace · 23-03-2018, 12:09 PM

I just re-fitted a Hawk HID unit to my 1992 750SS. At only £17 off EBay it is a bargain and is easy to fit. No wiring mods needed. You can buy H4 and H7 options. Two year guarantee.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-HID...0AAMXQM0FRenvF

Mr Gazza · 23-03-2018, 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=Dennis menace;552927]I just re-fitted a Hawk HID unit to my 1992 750SS. At only £17 QUOTE]

Or £21.98 inc postage. Do you get one or two bulbs for that?

Interesting conversion and definitely worth a punt, although a few have tried HID units in standard Monster lights and not had great results, on account of the poor reflector/lens.

I remember the lights on my own '92 750SS. Riding that at night was like sliding down a ten foot razor blade, using your balls for brakes.
Not only did you need a white stick, but the dip switch was so close to the headlight switch, that I actually turned the lights right off on a couple of occasions instead of dipping.. I had a total of one ride in the dark on that one.
Great in the daylight though.

It did make my Moto Morini 3 1/2 Sport look good though. It did away with electrical lighting all together and employed a torpid glow worm. This negated the need for a switch too. You just had to wait for the mating season.

Darren69 · 23-03-2018, 03:53 PM

I have a similar set up on my S4, it is very bright and a definite improvement but the beam pattern isn't great with the old reflector and lens, it lights up everything for miles! I think it blinds oncoming traffic and those large white reflective road signs are so bright they dazzle me.

jerry · 23-03-2018, 08:23 PM

HID now illegal in UK , will not pass MOT from May 2018 and police can prosecute if you have HID lamps installed

04-02-2018, 10:59 AM	#151
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	I can imagine the thought process that lead to this being invented and produced, but it is kind of re-inventing the wheel. I like simple and I just think that lights coming on and off whilst cornering would be a distraction for me. I'm looking for a lamp that has a carefully design, giving a good spread of light for all occasions. It strikes me that the gubbins that makes this work is just something to go wrong when you least need it to. My wife's Yeti has a feature that turns an extra driving lamp on, on one particular side, when the wheel is turned, supposedly to help you see round a corner better. She thought that there was something wrong when she first noticed it, thinking that only one of the lamps was working.. intermittently! The feature was pointed out when she mentioned it at the following service. I find it of very limited advantage and just distracting. Especially as to my mind it would be far better if it was the lamp on the outside of the bend that came on, angled across the car into the bend. We had fun at work when she was looking for a Yeti.. " Hev she got a Yeti yet?" "No, she hent got a Yeti yet". Then when it arrived and was Black, we all sang "Whoa Black Yeti. Bamalam.".. __________________

04-02-2018, 12:26 PM	#155
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	How did you fit an H7 in an H4 fitting? (standard Bosch is not 7" btw) The mist you found was probably smoke condensate? Why not clean the reflector? __________________

04-02-2018, 02:56 PM	#157
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	The standard Bosch headlight lens is separate from the reflector, so you can give the insides a polish with a soft cloth to get the milky cloudiness off. You don't need the meths.. __________________ Original and Best since 1993

23-03-2018, 03:34 PM	#163
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	[QUOTE=Dennis menace;552927]I just re-fitted a Hawk HID unit to my 1992 750SS. At only £17 QUOTE] Or £21.98 inc postage. Do you get one or two bulbs for that? Interesting conversion and definitely worth a punt, although a few have tried HID units in standard Monster lights and not had great results, on account of the poor reflector/lens. I remember the lights on my own '92 750SS. Riding that at night was like sliding down a ten foot razor blade, using your balls for brakes. Not only did you need a white stick, but the dip switch was so close to the headlight switch, that I actually turned the lights right off on a couple of occasions instead of dipping.. I had a total of one ride in the dark on that one. Great in the daylight though. It did make my Moto Morini 3 1/2 Sport look good though. It did away with electrical lighting all together and employed a torpid glow worm. This negated the need for a switch too. You just had to wait for the mating season. __________________

23-03-2018, 03:53 PM	#164
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,095	I have a similar set up on my S4, it is very bright and a definite improvement but the beam pattern isn't great with the old reflector and lens, it lights up everything for miles! I think it blinds oncoming traffic and those large white reflective road signs are so bright they dazzle me. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

04-02-2018, 11:10 AM	#152
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,561	"All you need is ........"

04-02-2018, 11:26 AM	#153
Capo You Are What You Is Join Date: May 2005 Location: A Foward Location Bike: S4r Posts: 1,948	My dads Cadillac had side illumination lights that came on with the indicators

04-02-2018, 12:18 PM	#154
Chriswilly Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: gloucester Bike: M900ie Posts: 133	Afternoon all! Jez -I fitted a H7 Osram 100/80 to Norah (standard original 7inch Bosch headlamp) and find it really good. Excellent flat cut-off on dip which illuminates all three lanes when running in the middle one. Can see for miles on main beam. The main thing is that it is 'natural' light and is easier to drive with. Passed the MOT without any comments two months ago. The other point here is that the headlight seemed to have a 'misty' reflector which in fact is condensation on the inside of the glass - removed with cotton wool on a wooden 'spill' with isopropyl alchol. Don't try and clean the reflector - but you know this already.

21-03-2018, 03:47 PM	#159
S4Rs MacK Guest Posts: n/a	Gazza. PM sent. Email to follow. Dean

21-03-2018, 06:00 PM	#160
Evostu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Gateshead Bike: M1100evo Posts: 54	Has anyone come up with a solution for the woefully inadequate headlight on the monster 1100 evo,if so would like to hear from you,stu

22-03-2018, 07:37 PM	#161
bazread Guest Posts: n/a	Very expensive but I would recommend the set up from Motodemic.com

23-03-2018, 12:09 PM	#162
Dennis menace Registered User Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Farnsfield Bike: Other Ducati Posts: 300	I just re-fitted a Hawk HID unit to my 1992 750SS. At only £17 off EBay it is a bargain and is easy to fit. No wiring mods needed. You can buy H4 and H7 options. Two year guarantee. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xenon-HID...0AAMXQM0FRenvF

23-03-2018, 08:23 PM	#165
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,909	HID now illegal in UK , will not pass MOT from May 2018 and police can prosecute if you have HID lamps installed __________________ MONSTERMAN Last edited by jerry; 24-03-2018 at 10:14 AM..