S4R Clutch basket change

griffs4r · 15-01-2024, 04:22 PM

I have a monster s4r 2006 and have decided to change the clutch basket and all the plates
the bike has 8,000 miles but the basket is worn, I did manage to get as far as removing the clutch nut from the shaft plus the spacer, but I cannot remove the center part of the basket, with heat or lube, is there a knack to getting this part off the shaft, I guess it's just a question of force.

Dukedesmo · 16-01-2024, 11:42 AM

The nut only releases the hub, have you undone the 8 retaining bolts in the basket?

griffs4r · 17-01-2024, 08:44 AM

hI,

I cannot reach the basket bolts as the clutch hub is in way,
On YouTube, I have seen a video for replacing the clutch basket
where the guy simply pulls the hub off the shaft mine won't budge
it could be corrosion but I can't get any force behind the inner part/hub to
pull it off the shaft. the local bike shop rebuilt an s4 and said the inner basket/hub
on the bike, they worked on came off easily.

350TSS · 17-01-2024, 08:59 AM

You might be able to get a 3 legged puller between the basket and the hub and press against the clutch main shaft (but would use a suitable alloy spacer to protect the threads on the main shaft) . If both the hub and the basket are worn and not for re-use then possibly a pair of screwdrivers used as levers down the clutch plate tang slots in the basket. The hub is full of rubber bits so would not recommend heat on the hub.

Dukedesmo · 17-01-2024, 10:19 AM

Hub needs to come off first, whenever I've removed them they came off easily. In fact I had one come off by itself whilst riding as the nut wasn't torqued up after a dealer had replaced the clutch.

Assuming it's the original hub? then it's a 2-piece with cush rubbers inside. The top part is held on by basically sitting on the inner and the rubbers so should pull off easily. It's the inner part that's onto the shaft, I would think they should separate easily enough to be able to get a puller on the inner but being steel on a steel shaft it could be corroded on.

Is the top hat shaped spacer/washer with roll pin under the nut free?

Mr Gazza · 17-01-2024, 06:13 PM

I don't get why you are changing the clutch at 8000 miles. What makes you think it's worn?
I changed mine @ 34000 and the new one has done 16000 no worries.
I take it that you know they rattle anyway?

Grumpy · 17-01-2024, 09:21 PM

Drop me a PM.
I'm in Peterborough, so could pop round over the weekend and run an eye over the basket.

griffs4r · 18-01-2024, 03:02 PM

Hi All,

as per Andy's m/c obsessions, I decided to change the clutch basket, as there is some wear
on the tangs on the clutch basket due to the clutch plates moving but it's not too bad at the moment,
I don't have a three-legged puller that can fit in between the basket and the hub but I will keep looking, cheers 350tss looks like a one-part hub bought at 4,000 miles and nine years old at the time,
removed the nut washer and spacer from the shaft plus o'ring thanks dukedesmo
hi Mrgazza, yes I have gotten used to the dry clutch but wanted to reduce the noise. There was lots of sideways movement in the plates, cheers Grumpy I may take you up on the offer.
otherwise, I will just fit the dutch kit and leave the basket for another year,and see how things go. thanks for your help so far.

regards griff..

15-01-2024, 04:22 PM	#1
griffs4r Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Whittlesey Peterborough Bike: S4r Posts: 3	S4R Clutch basket change I have a monster s4r 2006 and have decided to change the clutch basket and all the plates the bike has 8,000 miles but the basket is worn, I did manage to get as far as removing the clutch nut from the shaft plus the spacer, but I cannot remove the center part of the basket, with heat or lube, is there a knack to getting this part off the shaft, I guess it's just a question of force.

16-01-2024, 11:42 AM	#2
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,901	The nut only releases the hub, have you undone the 8 retaining bolts in the basket? __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

17-01-2024, 10:19 AM	#5
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,901	Hub needs to come off first, whenever I've removed them they came off easily. In fact I had one come off by itself whilst riding as the nut wasn't torqued up after a dealer had replaced the clutch. Assuming it's the original hub? then it's a 2-piece with cush rubbers inside. The top part is held on by basically sitting on the inner and the rubbers so should pull off easily. It's the inner part that's onto the shaft, I would think they should separate easily enough to be able to get a puller on the inner but being steel on a steel shaft it could be corroded on. Is the top hat shaped spacer/washer with roll pin under the nut free? __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

17-01-2024, 06:13 PM	#6
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,981	I don't get why you are changing the clutch at 8000 miles. What makes you think it's worn? I changed mine @ 34000 and the new one has done 16000 no worries. I take it that you know they rattle anyway? __________________

17-01-2024, 09:21 PM	#7
Grumpy record breaker!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Peterborough Bike: M1200R Posts: 2,155	Drop me a PM. I'm in Peterborough, so could pop round over the weekend and run an eye over the basket. __________________ It's not the destination, but the journey that matters Definition of a motorbike, a devise for overtaking cars!

17-01-2024, 08:44 AM	#3
griffs4r Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Whittlesey Peterborough Bike: S4r Posts: 3	hI, I cannot reach the basket bolts as the clutch hub is in way, On YouTube, I have seen a video for replacing the clutch basket where the guy simply pulls the hub off the shaft mine won't budge it could be corrosion but I can't get any force behind the inner part/hub to pull it off the shaft. the local bike shop rebuilt an s4 and said the inner basket/hub on the bike, they worked on came off easily.

17-01-2024, 08:59 AM	#4
350TSS Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Shipbourne Bike: M900 Posts: 1,422	You might be able to get a 3 legged puller between the basket and the hub and press against the clutch main shaft (but would use a suitable alloy spacer to protect the threads on the main shaft) . If both the hub and the basket are worn and not for re-use then possibly a pair of screwdrivers used as levers down the clutch plate tang slots in the basket. The hub is full of rubber bits so would not recommend heat on the hub.

18-01-2024, 03:02 PM	#8
griffs4r Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Whittlesey Peterborough Bike: S4r Posts: 3	Hi All, as per Andy's m/c obsessions, I decided to change the clutch basket, as there is some wear on the tangs on the clutch basket due to the clutch plates moving but it's not too bad at the moment, I don't have a three-legged puller that can fit in between the basket and the hub but I will keep looking, cheers 350tss looks like a one-part hub bought at 4,000 miles and nine years old at the time, removed the nut washer and spacer from the shaft plus o'ring thanks dukedesmo hi Mrgazza, yes I have gotten used to the dry clutch but wanted to reduce the noise. There was lots of sideways movement in the plates, cheers Grumpy I may take you up on the offer. otherwise, I will just fit the dutch kit and leave the basket for another year,and see how things go. thanks for your help so far. regards griff..