170/60 options?

Goofle · 28-05-2019, 08:51 PM

Pirelli are currently doing an offer on certain types of tyre that get a £30 cheque back after sale. I’ve taken advantage of this for the Panigale but the tyres that the offer is valid for doesn’t cover the 170/60 fitted as standard to the rear of my Monster. Has anyone tried a 180? I know it’s a regular swap on the zzr I have but am a believer that Ducati (and Kawasaki) designed the bike around the 170 and don’t fancy the risk of screwing up their efforts. However it’s now proving a bit tricky to get 170s and I do quite fancy seeing how the bike copes on decent modern rubber!
(The Pirelli website defaults to suggesting the 180 for what it’s worth!)

Mr Gazza · 28-05-2019, 08:58 PM

I've only ever used 180 on the rear of my Monsters as many do.
However I am keen to try a 170 next time as it makes so much sense.

Pirelli do the new Angel GT11 in 170/60 size.
The Avon Storm also comes in that size and looks quite interesting with good reviews.

Flip · 28-05-2019, 10:18 PM

I've never fitted a 180 section on my 900 but some years ago I rode a friends M900 with one fitted and I could notice the slower steering as a result.

Michelin still do the correct sizes:

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre-d...rail#253893995

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre-d...-m-c#255419405

Or just do a search of the sizes you want here:

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/

Goofle · 06-07-2019, 04:03 PM

I tried a set of Super Corsa (ex Bsb qualifiers) which were obviously really sticky, but rubbed on the rear hugger. (180 at the rear). I’ve just fitted a pair of new Pirelli Diablo Rosso 11s, so it’s mot time soon... more details of how I find the tyres shortly!

Yorkie · 07-07-2019, 01:02 AM

I have used a 180 on my M600 rear wheel and a 190 on my M900 rear wheel, I have had no issues just slower steering which I then adjusted the front forks to suit.

Yorkie’s

CarloL · 07-08-2019, 08:55 PM

How are the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 11 going?

I was looking at the 3's but they are only in a 180 fitment

will a 180 rub on the hugger?

Uncle Bob · 08-08-2019, 09:21 AM

I know this isn't a tyre review thread, but personally I don't think I really like the Diablo Rosso II. It might just be the ones on my bike, which I'm fairly sure are the original tyres but either way haven't done many miles in its 6 year life. It's a 180 rear, which is standard on the evo I believe.

They don't give me a lot of confidence, and I don't think the bike turns very well. This could also be a symptom of various other things of course, but the general feel from the tyres isn't amazing, IMO.

Dukedesmo · 08-08-2019, 09:47 AM

I'm using Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2 on my 916 and previously had them on the Monster, I like them but the Monster wears the rear out too quickly so I swapped to Pirelli Angel GT which are fine and last longer than the Rosso.

I initially tried a 180 on the Monster but switched to a 170 as I was getting chain to tyre to swingarm contact due to it being too close for comfort, although this is partly down to the bracing on the swingarm making the clearance tighter and I have recently 'widened' the bracing to help but a 170 seems perfectly good to me.

Odd that the Monster wears the same rear out quicker than the 916 despite being 30hp down and lighter, it does produce more low-down grunt and I suppose weight bias and riding style might also be a factor?

Darkness · 08-08-2019, 10:27 AM

Front tyre wear is pretty minimal though if you mostly keep it airborne!

Goofle · 27-08-2019, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarloL

How are the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 11 going?

Bit late back to this thread (sorry!) but to be honest I’ve got nothing bad really to say about the Rossi 2s. They work. They seem to suit the bike and my riding style, and aren’t too bad when I’ve be caught out in the rain. They haven’t given any concerns either when ‘making progress’, although I think the steering may be slightly slower than before.l (it seems to shake its head slightly less - maybe I’m getting older!!)
They aren’t the cutting edge in tyre technology any more, and I imagine a decent rider would rate newer rubber higher, but for me they’re fine....

Goofle · 27-08-2019, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarloL

will a 180 rub on the hugger?

It did for me, but others seem to find different!

Darkness · 27-08-2019, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle

It did for me, but others seem to find different!

Bear in mind there are at least three different plastic huggers fitted to M900, plus carbon fibre ones, so they probably aren’t all quite the same shape.

Rear wheel adjustment may also affect clearance depending whether full forward, middling or fully back in the swingarm.

Darkness · 27-08-2019, 03:50 PM

180/55 tight to get hand in and some marbles were rubbing till trimmed back.

170/60. Marginally more room to get hand in between tyre and hugger, but only a couple of mm. The main difference is width.

CarloL · 17-09-2019, 10:35 AM

Just fitted the 180 Rosso 3, had a michlein pilot road sport 4 on there in 170 fitment

Bike feels alot more planted, stable in the rear ; really like the steering, alot more progressive, find it more intuitive to roll into corners

Rear just feels more compliant across bumps, general road imperfections

28-05-2019, 08:51 PM	#1
Goofle Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Powys Bike: M900 Posts: 334	170/60 options? Pirelli are currently doing an offer on certain types of tyre that get a £30 cheque back after sale. I’ve taken advantage of this for the Panigale but the tyres that the offer is valid for doesn’t cover the 170/60 fitted as standard to the rear of my Monster. Has anyone tried a 180? I know it’s a regular swap on the zzr I have but am a believer that Ducati (and Kawasaki) designed the bike around the 170 and don’t fancy the risk of screwing up their efforts. However it’s now proving a bit tricky to get 170s and I do quite fancy seeing how the bike copes on decent modern rubber! (The Pirelli website defaults to suggesting the 180 for what it’s worth!) Last edited by Goofle; 28-05-2019 at 08:54 PM..

28-05-2019, 10:18 PM	#3
Flip Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beachtown Bike: M900 Posts: 2,188	I've never fitted a 180 section on my 900 but some years ago I rode a friends M900 with one fitted and I could notice the slower steering as a result. Michelin still do the correct sizes: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre-d...rail#253893995 https://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre-d...-m-c#255419405 Or just do a search of the sizes you want here: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/ __________________ You're perfect, yes, it's true- But without me you're only you!

07-07-2019, 01:02 AM	#5
Yorkie Anglo-Saxon Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Yorkshire Bike: M900 Posts: 2,485	I have used a 180 on my M600 rear wheel and a 190 on my M900 rear wheel, I have had no issues just slower steering which I then adjusted the front forks to suit. Yorkie’s __________________ NO ICE, GUN IT!

07-08-2019, 08:55 PM	#6
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	How are the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 11 going? I was looking at the 3's but they are only in a 180 fitment will a 180 rub on the hugger? Last edited by CarloL; 07-08-2019 at 09:26 PM..

08-08-2019, 09:47 AM	#8
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,898	I'm using Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2 on my 916 and previously had them on the Monster, I like them but the Monster wears the rear out too quickly so I swapped to Pirelli Angel GT which are fine and last longer than the Rosso. I initially tried a 180 on the Monster but switched to a 170 as I was getting chain to tyre to swingarm contact due to it being too close for comfort, although this is partly down to the bracing on the swingarm making the clearance tighter and I have recently 'widened' the bracing to help but a 170 seems perfectly good to me. Odd that the Monster wears the same rear out quicker than the 916 despite being 30hp down and lighter, it does produce more low-down grunt and I suppose weight bias and riding style might also be a factor? __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

28-05-2019, 08:58 PM	#2
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,979	I've only ever used 180 on the rear of my Monsters as many do. However I am keen to try a 170 next time as it makes so much sense. Pirelli do the new Angel GT11 in 170/60 size. The Avon Storm also comes in that size and looks quite interesting with good reviews. __________________

06-07-2019, 04:03 PM	#4
Goofle Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Powys Bike: M900 Posts: 334	I tried a set of Super Corsa (ex Bsb qualifiers) which were obviously really sticky, but rubbed on the rear hugger. (180 at the rear). I’ve just fitted a pair of new Pirelli Diablo Rosso 11s, so it’s mot time soon... more details of how I find the tyres shortly!

08-08-2019, 09:21 AM	#7
Uncle Bob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Milton Keynes Bike: M1100evo Posts: 233	I know this isn't a tyre review thread, but personally I don't think I really like the Diablo Rosso II. It might just be the ones on my bike, which I'm fairly sure are the original tyres but either way haven't done many miles in its 6 year life. It's a 180 rear, which is standard on the evo I believe. They don't give me a lot of confidence, and I don't think the bike turns very well. This could also be a symptom of various other things of course, but the general feel from the tyres isn't amazing, IMO.

08-08-2019, 10:27 AM	#9
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	Front tyre wear is pretty minimal though if you mostly keep it airborne! __________________ Original and Best since 1993

27-08-2019, 03:50 PM	#13
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	180/55 tight to get hand in and some marbles were rubbing till trimmed back. 170/60. Marginally more room to get hand in between tyre and hugger, but only a couple of mm. The main difference is width. __________________ Original and Best since 1993

17-09-2019, 10:35 AM	#14
CarloL Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Dublin Ireland Bike: M900 Posts: 298	Just fitted the 180 Rosso 3, had a michlein pilot road sport 4 on there in 170 fitment Bike feels alot more planted, stable in the rear ; really like the steering, alot more progressive, find it more intuitive to roll into corners Rear just feels more compliant across bumps, general road imperfections