Alternative headlamps...

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 04:33 PM

From reading threads here, the impression I get is the standard headlamp fall a little short of ideal.

There are other options available, but anyone have specific recommendations?

Has anyone bought/ tried one of these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1623163526...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

smiffyraf1 · 07-01-2017, 05:16 PM

Have been looking at this myself recently. just that my lens has been cracked by a stone and wanted to try something different but would not change the look of the bike. i was tempted to get a unit from a scrambler to see what that is like. not keen on the dual 'streetfighter' type

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 06:11 PM

I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern.
The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of?

Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim.
It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive.
The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets.

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern.
The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of?

Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim.
It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive.
The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets.

The light does seem to offer great illumination, but it would be good to know which light is featured in the comparisons!

The pricing isn't too bad until you realise that the casing doubles the cost. There must be a similar unit thats cheaper?

Darren69 · 07-01-2017, 07:34 PM

It's a shame it doesn't fit the original monster headlamp shell, or will it?

It looks quite good on a monster:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/Motor..._qi=RTM2063729

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 08:18 PM

It won't fit a Monster rim as Monsters have a weird continental size lamp.
They only seem to appear on Monsters and old BMW R100 ect.

I do have a cunning plan to make an adapter to covert the Monster to take standard 7" lamp units... What that looks like remains to be seen.

In the mean time I have ordered one of these for evaluation, as it's only a tenner.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-inch-Mot...3D162341443978

I will probably bin the reflector and glass from it... There's no pilot light anyway.
The thing is it will open the floodgates to any 7" reflector/lens unit and also choice of bulb fitment, i.e. H4 or whatever or even LED.

That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it.

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it.

You will have to let me know what its like once you have received it.

Cousin it · 07-01-2017, 08:42 PM

I have the jw speaker version of this light unit fitted to my s4r, corse dynamics do an adaptor ring that fits between the light unit and the bezel, I had to replace the standard retaining clips with some lucas ones to hold the light unit securely in place, the jw speaker unit is the same one that motodemic supply with their kit and it is very bright.

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 08:45 PM

Will do..

Mr Gazza · 07-01-2017, 08:57 PM

.... You mean this adapter?

http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-cor...sion-ring.html

It's something like this that I have in mind, but not for $100 plus postage, plus VAT, plus custom duty, plus exchange rate.

More like made in my shed with a router..

Cousin it · 07-01-2017, 09:05 PM

That is the one, it is a little bit steep but the quality is very good.

Found a pic of the light on.

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

.... You mean this adapter?

http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-cor...sion-ring.html

It's something like this that I have in mind, but not for $100 plus postage, plus VAT, plus custom duty, plus exchange rate.

More like made in my shed with a router..

Or we get one of those converter rings and have copies made via a 3d printer! What would you think a converter ring would sell for?

Jez900ie · 07-01-2017, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cousin it

Now thats what I want right there!

Mr Gazza · 08-01-2017, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jez900ie

Or we get one of those converter rings and have copies made via a 3d printer! What would you think a converter ring would sell for?

I'm certainly not prepared to pay for one of those rings from the US, but if you happen to have a 3D printer laying about, go for it.

I have an offcut of Tricoya to go at with my router... Enough to make about a dozen rings.
They would work out at about 12 to 15p each to my mates on here.

Those would need to be painted to look anything. Or vinyl carbon wrapped?

If they prove to work okay and not look too bad, then I would look into using one as a mould to produce them in carbon fibre, not that those would be any lighter than a Tricoya one, just better looking and more expensive.

I'm hoping to bump into my Carbon Fibre guru mate this afternoon. So watch this space.

Jez900ie · 08-01-2017, 11:42 AM

Unfortunately I don't have a 3d printer, but I think you can get things made by companies who have them especially for this reason.

I will be watching this space closely, as I like the sound of your home grown mod. And carbon maybe on the horizon too...

07-01-2017, 04:33 PM	#1
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	Alternative headlamps... From reading threads here, the impression I get is the standard headlamp fall a little short of ideal. There are other options available, but anyone have specific recommendations? Has anyone bought/ tried one of these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1623163526...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed Last edited by Jez900ie; 15-07-2018 at 05:27 PM..

07-01-2017, 06:11 PM	#3
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	I like the way that the 10mtr/yard marker is illuminated in the first picture of the dipped beam pattern. The main beam seems to have more penetration too, but it isn't clear what the comparison pictures are of? Be aware that the light unit will not fit straight into the Monster shell or rim. It says in the blurb that you will need another shell, so it's all starting to work out rather expensive. The shell will need M8 threads in either side and will also require a couple of spacers to make up the width to fit within the Monster headlamp brackets. __________________

07-01-2017, 07:34 PM	#5
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,095	It's a shame it doesn't fit the original monster headlamp shell, or will it? It looks quite good on a monster:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/Motor..._qi=RTM2063729 __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

07-01-2017, 08:18 PM	#6
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	It won't fit a Monster rim as Monsters have a weird continental size lamp. They only seem to appear on Monsters and old BMW R100 ect. I do have a cunning plan to make an adapter to covert the Monster to take standard 7" lamp units... What that looks like remains to be seen. In the mean time I have ordered one of these for evaluation, as it's only a tenner. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-inch-Mot...3D162341443978 I will probably bin the reflector and glass from it... There's no pilot light anyway. The thing is it will open the floodgates to any 7" reflector/lens unit and also choice of bulb fitment, i.e. H4 or whatever or even LED. That LED unit would probably fit into one of those Jez if you binned the rim that comes with it. __________________

07-01-2017, 08:42 PM	#8
Cousin it Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: plymouth Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 62	I have the jw speaker version of this light unit fitted to my s4r, corse dynamics do an adaptor ring that fits between the light unit and the bezel, I had to replace the standard retaining clips with some lucas ones to hold the light unit securely in place, the jw speaker unit is the same one that motodemic supply with their kit and it is very bright. __________________ 04 S4R 15 821

07-01-2017, 05:16 PM	#2
smiffyraf1 Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincoln Bike: M1000ie Posts: 594	Have been looking at this myself recently. just that my lens has been cracked by a stone and wanted to try something different but would not change the look of the bike. i was tempted to get a unit from a scrambler to see what that is like. not keen on the dual 'streetfighter' type

07-01-2017, 08:45 PM	#9
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	Will do.. __________________ Last edited by Mr Gazza; 07-01-2017 at 08:54 PM..

07-01-2017, 08:57 PM	#10
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,983	.... You mean this adapter? http://motowheels.com/i-13578432-cor...sion-ring.html It's something like this that I have in mind, but not for $100 plus postage, plus VAT, plus custom duty, plus exchange rate. More like made in my shed with a router.. __________________

07-01-2017, 09:05 PM	#11
Cousin it Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: plymouth Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 62	That is the one, it is a little bit steep but the quality is very good. Found a pic of the light on. __________________ 04 S4R 15 821

08-01-2017, 11:42 AM	#15
Jez900ie Pleasantly surprised! Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Stoke on Trent Bike: M900ie Posts: 780	Unfortunately I don't have a 3d printer, but I think you can get things made by companies who have them especially for this reason. I will be watching this space closely, as I like the sound of your home grown mod. And carbon maybe on the horizon too... __________________ Monsters don't hide under the bed, they sleep inside the shed