Security Markings - Worth it? - Page 2

16-04-2016, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

My Honda is datatagged, they want £15 to change owner details which although not a lot of money I thought a bit cheeky just to change a name.

I'm in the same position with my Monster, saves £3 on insurance but costs £15 to change. I'm not sure it would be a deterrent at all, it's not as if you'd see it unless you were looking.

Nickj · 17-04-2016, 01:37 AM

If they want it then it's gone...

The illusion that it will be difficult to move only helps with the casual not pro's.

Add some road grime and 'patina', look less desirable... LOL Hard with a monster that

Dukedesmo · 21-04-2016, 10:08 AM

I wouldn't bother personally. My 916 was datatagged from new but many of the tagged panels have been changed now so not much left to track now.

My insurance company sent me some DNA+ security marking kits FOC but they don't offer any discount for using them, they're still in the packets.

I can't see it preventing a theft, if a serious crim wants your bike they won't be stopped by a few markings. I consider it like putting a lock code in your phone - it won't stop anyone stealing it and you won't get it back even if they can't circumvent it, so why bother?

That said I don't leave my bikes in vulnerable locations, they are stored securely and insured on an agreed value policy, meaning I'd get a decent payout if the worse happened...

utopia · 21-04-2016, 11:54 AM

My bike was Datatagged by the first owner too.
They didn't fit the warning sticker though so, unless the thieves are very observant, they won't know and they won't be deterred.
I've also changed many of the tagged parts anyway.
And I never bothered re-registering my details with Datatag when I bought it in the first place.
As you can see, I don't rate the system very highly.

BigOz · 21-04-2016, 12:24 PM

I was told at a show by one of the Met police bike theft specialists that the handlers that pay the thieves are reluctant to take marked bikes and those that will take them only give a few tens of pounds for them.
They suggested that making the fact the bike is marked obvious to a potential thief is a good deterrent to theft.

Andy

Dirty · 21-04-2016, 12:28 PM

I wonder if anyone has ever bought a used part with a DT number on it and bothered to check it?

21-04-2016, 01:51 PM

Probably just sanded it off for fear of getting into trouble themselves for the original (possible) offence.

Darren69 · 21-04-2016, 02:17 PM

It's ironic but the only bike I had stolen and didn't get back was the one that had been Datatagged by the previous owner.

utopia · 21-04-2016, 02:34 PM

Xena alarmed disc locks are a decent addition to your security, I reckon.
Adds an alarm with no wiring issues or battery flattening, as well as the disc lock itself.
Difficult to forget and ride off too.
And, with the alarm, its less likely that someone will try to move your bike for parking reasons or somesuch, while a plain disc lock might cause damage in such circumstances.

Dirty · 21-04-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by utopia

Difficult to forget and ride off too.

I can confirm this

17-04-2016, 01:37 AM	#17
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,207	If they want it then it's gone... The illusion that it will be difficult to move only helps with the casual not pro's. Add some road grime and 'patina', look less desirable... LOL Hard with a monster that __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

21-04-2016, 10:08 AM	#18
Dukedesmo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leics Bike: M900 Posts: 2,894	I wouldn't bother personally. My 916 was datatagged from new but many of the tagged panels have been changed now so not much left to track now. My insurance company sent me some DNA+ security marking kits FOC but they don't offer any discount for using them, they're still in the packets. I can't see it preventing a theft, if a serious crim wants your bike they won't be stopped by a few markings. I consider it like putting a lock code in your phone - it won't stop anyone stealing it and you won't get it back even if they can't circumvent it, so why bother? That said I don't leave my bikes in vulnerable locations, they are stored securely and insured on an agreed value policy, meaning I'd get a decent payout if the worse happened... __________________ M900, 916, LeMans II.

21-04-2016, 12:24 PM	#20
BigOz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chatham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 714	I was told at a show by one of the Met police bike theft specialists that the handlers that pay the thieves are reluctant to take marked bikes and those that will take them only give a few tens of pounds for them. They suggested that making the fact the bike is marked obvious to a potential thief is a good deterrent to theft. Andy __________________ Sideways is the new forward!

21-04-2016, 12:28 PM	#21
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	I wonder if anyone has ever bought a used part with a DT number on it and bothered to check it? __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

21-04-2016, 02:17 PM	#23
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,091	It's ironic but the only bike I had stolen and didn't get back was the one that had been Datatagged by the previous owner. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

21-04-2016, 11:54 AM	#19
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,561	My bike was Datatagged by the first owner too. They didn't fit the warning sticker though so, unless the thieves are very observant, they won't know and they won't be deterred. I've also changed many of the tagged parts anyway. And I never bothered re-registering my details with Datatag when I bought it in the first place. As you can see, I don't rate the system very highly.

21-04-2016, 01:51 PM	#22
Nottsbiker Guest Posts: n/a	Probably just sanded it off for fear of getting into trouble themselves for the original (possible) offence.

21-04-2016, 02:34 PM	#24
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,561	Xena alarmed disc locks are a decent addition to your security, I reckon. Adds an alarm with no wiring issues or battery flattening, as well as the disc lock itself. Difficult to forget and ride off too. And, with the alarm, its less likely that someone will try to move your bike for parking reasons or somesuch, while a plain disc lock might cause damage in such circumstances.