Nanny State!

02-09-2009, 10:53 PM

Hi all,

Just been sent a link to this petition, I can't imagine it will actually do any good but hey, worth a try!

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/100bhplimits/

Cheers

Luke

03-09-2009, 12:29 AM

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LVC · 03-09-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote petition "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Not allow the draconian proposals to apply power restictions on motorcycles go through.France is the perfect case study, it does not work, training and attitude is what matters".

Not too sure where they're getting their info from regarding France? As most of the bikes here that can, have more than 100BHP irrespective of the actual legal limit of 106CV. Living near Le Mans (France's reputed capital for bikes) the amount of bikes and bike owners per head of the capita is enormous and therefore the risk of a bike related accident is also much higher.

The fact that there are still fatalities in France is very true and the fact that virtually every bike fatality accident also involves a non bike vehicle is also true. Education of the other road users is as important as the education and training of the bike riders.

France is also currently petitioning to have the 106CV limit removed on the argument that it does indeed make no difference and the restriction of one form of transport and not another is unjust (i.e. there is no BHP/CV limit on car drivers). The 34CV limit for new riders or under 21s works as it limits the accidents of inexperienced riders.

Personally I like having the option of "brake or go" and often it's the later that's avoided the crunch. Both my road bikes are UK registered and have more than 100BHP despite the fact that they live with me over here - something which regularly annoys the local plod

I've signed

03-09-2009, 01:30 PM

Well lets hope it does some good. I've signed and I hope some of the other 3000+ members of UKMoc do too!

03-09-2009, 02:39 PM

Have I missed the reports where they say that this is being considered?

03-09-2009, 05:23 PM

On further investigation it appears the petition may be a big pile of boll#*cks!

The Gecko is a wise creature indeed.!

04-09-2009, 07:32 AM

Personally I'm more concered about the serious consideration being given to a national 50mph speed limit...

LVC · 19-10-2009, 01:10 PM

Response to the petition is in >>>>

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21007

And looks like the UK is not going down the max 100BHP route - for the time being at least

19-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MON

Personally I'm more concered about the serious consideration being given to a national 50mph speed limit...

They say they are not introducing a new lower national speed limit, but it does seem a bit open to highway authorities doing what they want. I can't help get the feeling the government have side stepped on the answer here. Will highways authorities drop the limit just so they don't get sued /fined for not reacting to revised gov guidelines when someone gets killed / seriously injured on any stretch of road? We'll just have to wait till the end of the year to find out the results of the "consultation".

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20803

Liz · 19-10-2009, 10:36 PM

Do they want to introduce a 50mph speed limit nationally so they won't get sued for quite as much when a motocyclist comes off due to a large pot-hole in the road - the roads in my area are awful!

02-09-2009, 10:53 PM	#1
Lucati Guest Posts: n/a	Nanny State! Hi all, Just been sent a link to this petition, I can't imagine it will actually do any good but hey, worth a try! http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/100bhplimits/ Cheers Luke

03-09-2009, 12:29 AM	#2
moony Guest Posts: n/a	.......... Last edited by moony; 16-11-2009 at 11:08 AM..

03-09-2009, 10:02 AM	#3
LVC The Loire Valley Monster Join Date: May 2006 Location: South of Le Mans Bike: S4 Posts: 709	Quote petition "We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Not allow the draconian proposals to apply power restictions on motorcycles go through.France is the perfect case study, it does not work, training and attitude is what matters". Not too sure where they're getting their info from regarding France? As most of the bikes here that can, have more than 100BHP irrespective of the actual legal limit of 106CV. Living near Le Mans (France's reputed capital for bikes) the amount of bikes and bike owners per head of the capita is enormous and therefore the risk of a bike related accident is also much higher. The fact that there are still fatalities in France is very true and the fact that virtually every bike fatality accident also involves a non bike vehicle is also true. Education of the other road users is as important as the education and training of the bike riders. France is also currently petitioning to have the 106CV limit removed on the argument that it does indeed make no difference and the restriction of one form of transport and not another is unjust (i.e. there is no BHP/CV limit on car drivers). The 34CV limit for new riders or under 21s works as it limits the accidents of inexperienced riders. Personally I like having the option of "brake or go" and often it's the later that's avoided the crunch. Both my road bikes are UK registered and have more than 100BHP despite the fact that they live with me over here - something which regularly annoys the local plod I've signed __________________ *Kiss French, Play Japanese, Ride Italian....*

19-10-2009, 01:10 PM	#8
LVC The Loire Valley Monster Join Date: May 2006 Location: South of Le Mans Bike: S4 Posts: 709	Response to the petition is in >>>> http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21007 And looks like the UK is not going down the max 100BHP route - for the time being at least __________________ *Kiss French, Play Japanese, Ride Italian....*

19-10-2009, 10:36 PM	#10
Liz Co-ordination Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calne Bike: S2r Posts: 1,361	Do they want to introduce a 50mph speed limit nationally so they won't get sued for quite as much when a motocyclist comes off due to a large pot-hole in the road - the roads in my area are awful! __________________ Never give up, never surrender!

03-09-2009, 01:30 PM	#4
Lucati Guest Posts: n/a	Well lets hope it does some good. I've signed and I hope some of the other 3000+ members of UKMoc do too!

03-09-2009, 02:39 PM	#5
Paivi Guest Posts: n/a	Have I missed the reports where they say that this is being considered?

03-09-2009, 05:23 PM	#6
Lucati Guest Posts: n/a	On further investigation it appears the petition may be a big pile of boll#*cks! The Gecko is a wise creature indeed.!

04-09-2009, 07:32 AM	#7
MON Guest Posts: n/a	Personally I'm more concered about the serious consideration being given to a national 50mph speed limit...