m600 mods help

17-01-2009, 11:28 AM

hi i am new to monster but not to biking.......... as my monster arrives monday woooo i was just pondering about a few things

1. is it possible to fit a newer 2002ish speedo and rev clocks to my bike seeing as it only has a speedo and idiot lights?

2. removing the 33bhp restrictor that the previous owner has fitted...... i know that it is connected to the carbs but where on the carbs are the ¨washers¨ located?

3. where is the best places to get one of the under body bits of faring as they look nicer with them on.

thanks
oscar

Nickj · 17-01-2009, 03:41 PM

Nice start out in Monsters but you'll want a bigger one soon!!

In order
1. Nope, new series clocks are all electronic and yours would be mechanical. BUT you could easily replace the lot with one of the very swish and trick electronic consoles. Theres a few strands on your options on this. Someone will show you what is available / what they've done pretty soon I'd think.

2. Pull off the airbox and carbs the little buggers in there somewhere!! Again we got that covered, expect some actually helpful advice soon!

3. They crop up here from time to time and you can get some off of e-bay. It depends what you want really, a full tray or a more open one, fibreglass or carbon. Oh lots don't come with the fitting kit but theres some of them on e-bay too!

Theres also tons of other stuff you can add / do to monsters, watch out it's addictive!

17-01-2009, 06:47 PM

If it is a mechanical restrictor it is screwed on here (circled). It is easily removed from the right side of the bike at the bottom of the carbs.

17-01-2009, 07:27 PM

i swear he said that it was 2 washers in the carbs?? not screwed in just resting in them somewhere? or am i going to have to remove the carbs and have a closer look

17-01-2009, 10:21 PM

You need to do a thread search on this subject.

17-01-2009, 10:32 PM

The two washers are located between the airbox and the mouth of the carbs.

It's a bit of a bugger to get to them, you'll have to remove the tank, airbox and possibly the ignition coils too. It was quite some time ago I did it on mine. It took a couple of hours but was more of a fiddly job than a technically complicated one.

17-01-2009, 10:46 PM

ahhh right ok im going to spend monday night taking the restrictors out wooo....... i know that the clocks on the 2001/2 models are electric and operated by servos this is ok but is it possible to fit them to the 95 bike? or would it require a complete wiring loop for them?

Nickj · 18-01-2009, 12:49 AM

The speed sensor would probably fit, it's a hall sensor and just registers when the disc retaining bolt heads go by.
So a sensor on the rear swinging arm gives you the speedo, you should be able to retro fit that.
The rev counter feeds from a data line from the ECU, I don't think there's a data line out of the pre injection Monsters.
So you'd need a pickup on the ignition side, either counting the pulses on the 12V side or pulses in the HT coil.

Both of these are the kind of things you get in the add on electronic speedo/rev counter combos. which is probably the way to go.

slob · 18-01-2009, 01:17 AM

Keep an eye out on ebay for a tacho kit for an early monster, a new dash with tacho and a hole for your existing speedo, they come up from time to time, usually in carbon. Probably far easier than converting late model clocks.

19-01-2009, 03:20 PM

ok i collected the bike today and its awwwsum better than my dreams

it seems to have a throttle restriction which kinda sucks because i get to about *cough* 80 *cough* and the power just seems to run dry acceleration is still fast because i am able to use 1/2 throttle ish. where do throttle cables join the carbs? and would the restrictor be easy to remove

19-01-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfiretruck

ok i collected the bike today and its awwwsum better than my dreams

it seems to have a throttle restriction which kinda sucks because i get to about *cough* 80 *cough* and the power just seems to run dry acceleration is still fast because i am able to use 1/2 throttle ish. where do throttle cables join the carbs? and would the restrictor be easy to remove

I'd not be so sure, when my old 600 was restricted with washers it was the same. Great acceleration up to about 85 or so and then it just ran out of wind.

Have a look in the mouth of the carbs before you start nosing around with the throttle. Washers are the usual restriction on the old carbed 600s.

19-01-2009, 10:18 PM

right ok ive had the airbox lid off as i cannot get any further in the time i had. there dont seem to be any washers or alike covering the tops of the carbs as i can see the flaps moving. theres 2 sets a black set that move in and out and the brass coloured ones that twist. are the lower set meant to open fully? or just 1/2 as mine only open 1/2 ish sort of 45% from closed to full throttle.

also is there an easy way of getting the airbox off?

gary tompkins · 19-01-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfiretruck

...also is there an easy way of getting the airbox off?

No - it's a PITA & about as easy as nailing jelly to the ceiling

Invest in a Haynes manual it makes most jobs a lot easier

20-01-2009, 12:38 AM

ok it was a throttle restrictor on the bike only allowing 30-40% ish throttle which kinda sucks but i have moved that out of the way and i will test the bike in the morning hopefully it will still run well :P

17-01-2009, 11:28 AM	#1
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	m600 mods help hi i am new to monster but not to biking.......... as my monster arrives monday woooo i was just pondering about a few things 1. is it possible to fit a newer 2002ish speedo and rev clocks to my bike seeing as it only has a speedo and idiot lights? 2. removing the 33bhp restrictor that the previous owner has fitted...... i know that it is connected to the carbs but where on the carbs are the ¨washers¨ located? 3. where is the best places to get one of the under body bits of faring as they look nicer with them on. thanks oscar

17-01-2009, 03:41 PM	#2
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,208	Nice start out in Monsters but you'll want a bigger one soon!! In order 1. Nope, new series clocks are all electronic and yours would be mechanical. BUT you could easily replace the lot with one of the very swish and trick electronic consoles. Theres a few strands on your options on this. Someone will show you what is available / what they've done pretty soon I'd think. 2. Pull off the airbox and carbs the little buggers in there somewhere!! Again we got that covered, expect some actually helpful advice soon! 3. They crop up here from time to time and you can get some off of e-bay. It depends what you want really, a full tray or a more open one, fibreglass or carbon. Oh lots don't come with the fitting kit but theres some of them on e-bay too! Theres also tons of other stuff you can add / do to monsters, watch out it's addictive! __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

18-01-2009, 12:49 AM	#8
Nickj Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Of Dean Bike: S2r Posts: 3,208	The speed sensor would probably fit, it's a hall sensor and just registers when the disc retaining bolt heads go by. So a sensor on the rear swinging arm gives you the speedo, you should be able to retro fit that. The rev counter feeds from a data line from the ECU, I don't think there's a data line out of the pre injection Monsters. So you'd need a pickup on the ignition side, either counting the pulses on the 12V side or pulses in the HT coil. Both of these are the kind of things you get in the add on electronic speedo/rev counter combos. which is probably the way to go. __________________ "The final measure of any rider's skill is the inverse ratio of his preferred Traveling Speed to the number of bad scars on his body." Song of the sausage creature

17-01-2009, 06:47 PM	#3
dunlop0_1 Guest Posts: n/a	If it is a mechanical restrictor it is screwed on here (circled). It is easily removed from the right side of the bike at the bottom of the carbs.

17-01-2009, 07:27 PM	#4
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	i swear he said that it was 2 washers in the carbs?? not screwed in just resting in them somewhere? or am i going to have to remove the carbs and have a closer look

17-01-2009, 10:21 PM	#5
dunlop0_1 Guest Posts: n/a	You need to do a thread search on this subject.

17-01-2009, 10:32 PM	#6
nik_the_brief Guest Posts: n/a	The two washers are located between the airbox and the mouth of the carbs. It's a bit of a bugger to get to them, you'll have to remove the tank, airbox and possibly the ignition coils too. It was quite some time ago I did it on mine. It took a couple of hours but was more of a fiddly job than a technically complicated one.

17-01-2009, 10:46 PM	#7
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	ahhh right ok im going to spend monday night taking the restrictors out wooo....... i know that the clocks on the 2001/2 models are electric and operated by servos this is ok but is it possible to fit them to the 95 bike? or would it require a complete wiring loop for them?

18-01-2009, 01:17 AM	#9
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,736	Keep an eye out on ebay for a tacho kit for an early monster, a new dash with tacho and a hole for your existing speedo, they come up from time to time, usually in carbon. Probably far easier than converting late model clocks.

19-01-2009, 03:20 PM	#10
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	ok i collected the bike today and its awwwsum better than my dreams it seems to have a throttle restriction which kinda sucks because i get to about cough 80 cough and the power just seems to run dry acceleration is still fast because i am able to use 1/2 throttle ish. where do throttle cables join the carbs? and would the restrictor be easy to remove

19-01-2009, 10:18 PM	#12
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	right ok ive had the airbox lid off as i cannot get any further in the time i had. there dont seem to be any washers or alike covering the tops of the carbs as i can see the flaps moving. theres 2 sets a black set that move in and out and the brass coloured ones that twist. are the lower set meant to open fully? or just 1/2 as mine only open 1/2 ish sort of 45% from closed to full throttle. also is there an easy way of getting the airbox off?

20-01-2009, 12:38 AM	#14
bigfiretruck Guest Posts: n/a	ok it was a throttle restrictor on the bike only allowing 30-40% ish throttle which kinda sucks but i have moved that out of the way and i will test the bike in the morning hopefully it will still run well :P