M900ie MY 2000 Starter switch and solenoid options?

[iconic944ss]

My brother is having starting issues that we are working through...

Good info here on starter upgrades that I've noted.

His (original) handlebar assembly is VERY worn-out; I tried JHP for a replacement for 65040062A and they appear to be not made anymore???

I see little point in buying a used item from a breaker and wonder if anyone has tried newer - I actually have a Hyper 1100 start switch (somewhere) so will be looking at that but my splicing skills are not brilliant!

Next, Starter relay replacement 39740011A
JHP quote £40 which is not excessive but, is there something better?
I read somewhere of a Yam unit being good.
Electrex was my first choice but their's is generic (eg not plug n play).

I change the solenoid on my 900SS for a unit from from a Mini car of all things, it needed an earth of its own and was larger then OEM but worked well for years.

Thanks in advance.

[Darren69]

It may be worth while upgrading the cables while you're at it.

https://www.ducati.tech/exact-start-...tarter-cables/

Fwiw I think the right handle bar switch gear is the same on my 02 and 07. You can probably cross reference the part no on Stein Dinse as it may be worth considering a s/hand one as I expect new price will be silly.

[slob]

I believe (but I’m not 100% sure for that year) that switchgear on ie models is the same as Suzuki Bandit of the same vintage. It certainly is for later ie models. You might need to change the connectors to suit Ducati wiring.

[Kato]

Starter Relay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166255958...parms=ispr%3D1

Switch
https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/searc...hStr=65040062A

Rob I think the slightly later (Fat Switches) are the same as the Bandit item

[900Rebuilder]

Originally Posted by Kato

Starter Relay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166255958...parms=ispr%3D1

Switch
https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/searc...hStr=65040062A

Rob I think the slightly later (Fat Switches) are the same as the Bandit item

Have you used the pattern parts listed such as the solenoid? I only ask as mine is ancient and I'd like to pop a new one in as I go

[Kato]

Both are generic parts and were never manufactured by Ducati therefore I guess they are all patern parts

The relay yes I have used one and it was perfect

The switch no I have not needed to, BUT if its being sold by Stein-Dinse then I'd say thats 99% going to be a good part, they are a dealer of some standing within Ducati circles

Bottom line is you cannot get new ones from Ducati therefore you have no choice other than patern or second hand !!!!

Many time you will find as Slob pointed out the same part being used on different manufacturers bikes, just takes a bit of detective work to find out

[900Rebuilder]

Originally Posted by Kato

Both are generic parts and were never manufactured by Ducati therefore I guess they are all patern parts

The relay yes I have used one and it was perfect

The switch no I have not needed to, BUT if its being sold by Stein-Dinse then I'd say thats 99% going to be a good part, they are a dealer of some standing within Ducati circles

Bottom line is you cannot get new ones from Ducati therefore you have no choice other than patern or second hand !!!!

Many time you will find as Slob pointed out the same part being used on different manufacturers bikes, just takes a bit of detective work to find out

Yes - I have a 70's Toyota fuel filter ready for the 900 as they are NLA from Ducati

[iconic944ss]

Many Thanks for the replies.

The eBay solenoid looks fine but no Amperage is mentioned so, I'm wary.

If I'm going to convert to non-std then this 150A from the Aprilia world would be my choice

https://www.apworkshops.co.uk/aprili...e-150-amp.html

As for the starter switch; it seems the same unit was used on 748/916/996/998 also.

They are available in France but I'm guessing about £120 by the time we get raped on import duty/taxes etcetera...

https://www.desmo-racing.com/comodo-..._636-5551.html

Meanwhile in Gotham city:

I found the 1100 Hypermotard switch that appears similar in operation (comparing wiring diagrams says the same). BUT, wire colours are different and OF COURSE, the old version has a flat Superseal connection while the Hyper item uses two pairs of connectors stacked above each other in a box.

I did have the idea of wiring up an adapter cable so both OEM cables 'remain the same' but my patience is at a premium these days lol.

*Fuel filter, these guys even tell you where else to look ;-)

https://motorcyclepartsstore.co.uk/p...e-fuel-filter/

[900Rebuilder]

Originally Posted by iconic944ss

Many Thanks for the replies.

The eBay solenoid looks fine but no Amperage is mentioned so, I'm wary.

If I'm going to convert to non-std then this 150A from the Aprilia world would be my choice

https://www.apworkshops.co.uk/aprili...e-150-amp.html

As for the starter switch; it seems the same unit was used on 748/916/996/998 also.

They are available in France but I'm guessing about £120 by the time we get raped on import duty/taxes etcetera...

https://www.desmo-racing.com/comodo-..._636-5551.html

Meanwhile in Gotham city:

I found the 1100 Hypermotard switch that appears similar in operation (comparing wiring diagrams says the same). BUT, wire colours are different and OF COURSE, the old version has a flat Superseal connection while the Hyper item uses two pairs of connectors stacked above each other in a box.

I did have the idea of wiring up an adapter cable so both OEM cables 'remain the same' but my patience is at a premium these days lol.

*Fuel filter, these guys even tell you where else to look ;-)

https://motorcyclepartsstore.co.uk/p...e-fuel-filter/

Thanks - I'll check it out! Mind you mine was the odd / rare type with the inlet and outlet opposite ach other where as most others that look like this have one at a right angle to the body and one out the bottom but in similar white plastic. All sorted though as got 2 on an offer via ebay for a tenner

[Kato]

Looks like the std Hitatchi solenoid to me same unit as OEM Ducati wired slightly differently though

Here is the same unit from a Ducati Dealer (Pro Twins)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254216021...BoCNlQQAvD_BwE

Not as you thought available in France as stated on the link you posted

Article en rupture de stock (Item is out of stock)

[iconic944ss]

Originally Posted by Kato

Not as you thought available in France as stated on the link you posted

Article en rupture de stock (Item is out of stock)

Many thanks Kato - I did not see that (or notice) it.

Re others: I'm sure I saw the original unit is only 60mm wide...

Like me, my older Bro now has no hair - lol - at least I didn't PULL MINE OUT!

He asked me if the M900 2002 Y.M. starter might work - sadly, totally different:

[Kato]

Originally Posted by iconic944ss

Many thanks Kato - I did not see that (or notice) it.

Re others: I'm sure I saw the original unit is only 60mm wide...

Like me, my older Bro now has no hair - lol - at least I didn't PULL MINE OUT!

He asked me if the M900 2002 Y.M. starter might work - sadly, totally different:

That switch will of course work if rewired withe correct plug but as you are already aware it's double the width of the original

[Darren69]

Rob mentioned Suzuki switchgear, these are pretty close to the '02 version except in price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194620858...mis&media=COPY

[Darren69]

Early one on ebay £20

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116069702...mis&media=COPY

[iconic944ss]

Originally Posted by Darren69

Early one on ebay £20

THANKS DARREN - good hunting skills!

The seller at least tested with a multi meter so I'm willing to take a punt.