I thought I would restore this just for the hell of it

21-10-2016, 07:11 PM

this should keep me busy till the next Monster comes along.http://s417.photobucket.com/user/doo...T1742.jpg.html[IMG]

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21-10-2016, 07:17 PM

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21-10-2016, 07:20 PM

is it possible to post photos straight from an Ipad onto this forum? I do have all kinds of problems using Photo bucket

Dirty · 21-10-2016, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dookbob

is it possible to post photos straight from an Ipad onto this forum? I do have all kinds of problems using Photo bucket

Try postimg.org

21-10-2016, 07:35 PM

Unfortunately not, they have to be hosted somewhere. Easier alternative is to download the Photo bucket app, should make things a bit smoother.

21-10-2016, 08:13 PM

thanks , I will try that.

22-10-2016, 11:35 AM

Testing

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slob · 22-10-2016, 12:35 PM

if you hit 'quote' you should see how the image (IMG) tags work

Mr Gazza · 22-10-2016, 12:46 PM

Okay, very nice so far.

I'm thinking I'm fairly safe with saying it's a Ducati Single Circa 1970, give or take.

What capacity I couldn't say, but plumping for 250.

The curved frame rails at the bottom of the saddle tubes/rear brace are throwing me at the moment. Is this a home brewed mod? Definitely something I've not seen before.

I'm hoping it's a 450 Scrambler...

Dukedesmo · 22-10-2016, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Gazza

Okay, very nice so far.

I'm thinking I'm fairly safe with saying it's a Ducati Single Circa 1970, give or take.

What capacity I couldn't say, but plumping for 250.

The curved frame rails at the bottom of the saddle tubes/rear brace are throwing me at the moment. Is this a home brewed mod? Definitely something I've not seen before.

I'm hoping it's a 450 Scrambler...

It does look like an old single. I had a '68 narrow-case Scrambler 250 and it does look remarkably similar, I believe the frame was common to all capacities and that even the Mk1, 2, 3 etc. were very similar.

Here's a pic of mine, not the highest quality but you can see the frame shape;

22-10-2016, 03:15 PM

Mr Gazza got very close with the dating, it is in fact a 1969 and the engine is the 250 version, the frame has not been modified. This bike is one of the " Made in Spain "variety, but the only things I have found so far that differ from the " Italian Job " are the tail light fitting and the rear brake cable/stop light switch set up. Not sure what the front forks are, I think they are Marzocci, but there are no markings on them at all. It,s a wide case engine so it would be one of the very early ones. The Spanish described the bike as " a mainly Road going scrambler ", hence the tyre choice, because I won't be scrambling with it. It was originally black and yellow, but after much deliberation I decided on red and red.
To Utopia, I still have the M600 with your old tank on it, but like your 750 it,s a keeper ( Well, for now anyway )
To Slob, I feel a bit of a wally now you have posted the photo that I failed to post, but thanks for the help, I will try and get the hang of it once more. I have posted lots of photos on here as some of you know without any trouble at all. It,s Photobucket that are getting too smart with all the bells and whistles crap that they are into nowadays.

22-10-2016, 03:29 PM

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did I get it??
got it but I dont know how, thats just what I did when it failed

22-10-2016, 03:33 PM

just to make sure.[IMG]

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utopia · 22-10-2016, 01:34 PM

Can't recognise the bike at all, myself.
I do recognise a well engineered workbench/bikestand when I see one though.
None of your fancy looking mortice and tenon joints ... triangulation at the corners is the strong way to do it.

As usual, I'm expecting a first class result.
I still harbour a slight, lingering regret that I didn't buy your last monster resto .. the one with my old tank on it.
....cos my eldest lad is muttering about getting a bike.

Mr Gazza · 22-10-2016, 02:10 PM

A quick bit of flimsy research suggests that the curved rail was added to stiffen the frames for 450 motors. At the factory and also by home builders hopping up the engine.

The rail also appears on later 350 and 250s including the lovely 250 Desmo Circa 1974

Seems like they stiffened the frame for the 450 and then kept it as a standard feature across the range.

Later still frames featured tubes bent in one piece, so eliminating the "add in"

So the curved rail doesn't define it as a 450 but it narrows it down (450s were often red too).... Perhaps not a Scrambler with road tyres though?.

When can we stop guessing?..

21-10-2016, 07:11 PM	#1
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	I thought I would restore this just for the hell of it this should keep me busy till the next Monster comes along.http://s417.photobucket.com/user/doo...T1742.jpg.html[IMG][/IMG] Last edited by Dookbob; 21-10-2016 at 07:16 PM.. Reason: photo problem

21-10-2016, 07:17 PM	#2
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	[IMG][/IMG]

22-10-2016, 11:35 AM	#7
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	Testinghosting image[/IMG] Last edited by Dookbob; 22-10-2016 at 11:37 AM.. Reason: Test failed

22-10-2016, 12:46 PM	#9
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,981	Okay, very nice so far. I'm thinking I'm fairly safe with saying it's a Ducati Single Circa 1970, give or take. What capacity I couldn't say, but plumping for 250. The curved frame rails at the bottom of the saddle tubes/rear brace are throwing me at the moment. Is this a home brewed mod? Definitely something I've not seen before. I'm hoping it's a 450 Scrambler... __________________

22-10-2016, 03:29 PM	#12
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	[IMG][/IMG] did I get it?? got it but I dont know how, thats just what I did when it failed Last edited by Dookbob; 22-10-2016 at 03:31 PM.. Reason: addition

21-10-2016, 07:20 PM	#3
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	is it possible to post photos straight from an Ipad onto this forum? I do have all kinds of problems using Photo bucket

21-10-2016, 07:35 PM	#5
RossObey01 Guest Posts: n/a	Unfortunately not, they have to be hosted somewhere. Easier alternative is to download the Photo bucket app, should make things a bit smoother.

21-10-2016, 08:13 PM	#6
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	thanks , I will try that.

22-10-2016, 12:35 PM	#8
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,736	if you hit 'quote' you should see how the image (IMG) tags work

22-10-2016, 03:15 PM	#11
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	Mr Gazza got very close with the dating, it is in fact a 1969 and the engine is the 250 version, the frame has not been modified. This bike is one of the " Made in Spain "variety, but the only things I have found so far that differ from the " Italian Job " are the tail light fitting and the rear brake cable/stop light switch set up. Not sure what the front forks are, I think they are Marzocci, but there are no markings on them at all. It,s a wide case engine so it would be one of the very early ones. The Spanish described the bike as " a mainly Road going scrambler ", hence the tyre choice, because I won't be scrambling with it. It was originally black and yellow, but after much deliberation I decided on red and red. To Utopia, I still have the M600 with your old tank on it, but like your 750 it,s a keeper ( Well, for now anyway ) To Slob, I feel a bit of a wally now you have posted the photo that I failed to post, but thanks for the help, I will try and get the hang of it once more. I have posted lots of photos on here as some of you know without any trouble at all. It,s Photobucket that are getting too smart with all the bells and whistles crap that they are into nowadays.

22-10-2016, 03:33 PM	#13
Dookbob Guest Posts: n/a	just to make sure.[IMG][/IMG]

22-10-2016, 01:34 PM	#14
utopia No turn left unstoned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: leicester Bike: M750 Posts: 4,561	Can't recognise the bike at all, myself. I do recognise a well engineered workbench/bikestand when I see one though. None of your fancy looking mortice and tenon joints ... triangulation at the corners is the strong way to do it. As usual, I'm expecting a first class result. I still harbour a slight, lingering regret that I didn't buy your last monster resto .. the one with my old tank on it. ....cos my eldest lad is muttering about getting a bike.

22-10-2016, 02:10 PM	#15
Mr Gazza Lord of the Rings Join Date: May 2013 Location: Norwich Bike: M900sie Posts: 5,981	A quick bit of flimsy research suggests that the curved rail was added to stiffen the frames for 450 motors. At the factory and also by home builders hopping up the engine. The rail also appears on later 350 and 250s including the lovely 250 Desmo Circa 1974 Seems like they stiffened the frame for the 450 and then kept it as a standard feature across the range. Later still frames featured tubes bent in one piece, so eliminating the "add in" So the curved rail doesn't define it as a 450 but it narrows it down (450s were often red too).... Perhaps not a Scrambler with road tyres though?. When can we stop guessing?.. __________________