1994 M600 owner coming to say hello!

21-11-2015, 07:43 PM

Hi everyone, pleased to meet you! I've just recently aquired a 1994 M600 which I've decided to strip down and tart up over these cold winter months.
I was advised to come here from the chaps over at Moto Rapido as I may be on the look out for some new forks due to the stanchions on mine being pitted and the fork cartridge apparently being rolled into the stanchions in the factory.
I will no doubt be picking brains and asking annoyingly obvious questions very soon.

Kev

Dirty · 21-11-2015, 08:49 PM

Welcome. Best Monster and best forum to be on.

Looking forward to build pics

22-11-2015, 10:24 AM

Cheers mate! I'll do my best to keep up with photographing the build although it's halted at the moment because of these cush driver bushes and forks. Grrrrrr! Still great fun though.

Kev

Zimbo · 22-11-2015, 12:21 PM

Welcome Kev, you're certainly in the right place :-)

Albie · 22-11-2015, 01:01 PM

Plenty of info on here. Use the search function or just ask anything you need too.

Darkness · 22-11-2015, 01:20 PM

Hi Kev.

I hope to see details of your build as it progresses.

Have you got any mod's planned, or shall you get it up and running first?

Cheers

22-11-2015, 01:50 PM

Welcome buddy!

I used some threaded bar, large washers and a socket to draw my cush drive rubbers out and it worked a treat

22-11-2015, 03:29 PM

Hiya everyone! Thanks for the kind words.
Nottsbiker, I have tried that but unfortunately that only took the inner sleeve and rubbers out so I'm trying various things to get the outer sleeve out of the wheels. So far I've tried stuffing bolts behind and drifting that way (I saw this on YouTube and thought it was worth a try), I'm currently grinding them with a dremmel so we will see where that takes me. I was considering a reamer to shave away piece by piece until they're gone.

Darkness, before I tore it down I chopped the back end and put some micro indicators on the back to tidy it all up. I also got rid of the filter housing for some k&n cones and upped the jetting to 145s. Seemed to have worked as the bike lunged a lot when cruising along....I discovered 125 jets in there and the needle clip was right out. I understand stock are 132.5? Anyway it rode well and was nice and smooth through all throttle positions and gears after my tinker.
Apart from that I am planning on keeping it fairly stock and just tarting it up and lightening the load by removing any unnecessary bits of plastic etc.

Kev

Darkness · 22-11-2015, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrobot

Darkness, before I tore it down I chopped the back end and put some micro indicators on the back to tidy it all up......
Apart from that I am planning on keeping it fairly stock and just tarting it up and lightening the load by removing any unnecessary bits of plastic etc.
Kev

That's my idea of custom: if it runs, goes round corners and stops without it you don't need it. If it doesn't, look for a smaller/lighter/prettier one.

You may regret losing the tea tray if you do much riding on wet/muddy roads, but losing it it does clean up the lines.

What this thread needs is photo's.............

22-11-2015, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkness

That's my idea of custom: if it runs, goes round corners and stops without it you don't need it. If it doesn't, look for a smaller/lighter/prettier one.

You may regret losing the tea tray if you do much riding on wet/muddy roads, but losing it it does clean up the lines.

What this thread needs is photo's.............

Well you want to see the size of the muguards on my XVS650....they're more of a nod to a mudguard than anything else so I tend to steer clear of muddy and wet days. Ha ha ha.

I'll get some photos up ASAP, need to upload some to my ftp.

Kev

22-11-2015, 08:26 PM

This is the M600 on the ride back from Hull when I bought it.

This was the beast last week before I stumbled across this cush drive system.

Oh and below is the Yammy I did last year. No wet roads for this one.

Kev

Albie · 22-11-2015, 03:45 PM

Heres my method I cut and pasted from removing the m900 inserts this summer. Needless to say I needed to not have bothered at all because powdercoating wouldn't have affected them and they were not worn.

" After the epic FAIL in even getting 1 cush drive out yesterday and drilling the centres out after giving up. I cleared the rubber out as good as possible and tried the dremel attack but wasn't getting very far and ended up pushing one further down.
Got my engineering head on and watched a video and couldn't quite see how he was getting them out but I realised that there is a gap about 8mm at the bottom. If I could somehow get something to expand under and slidehammer it would be easy. I did think about making a tool but that's madness when you want them out now but if the idea helps others I am happy.
I got a long M10 bolt so the head would sit under the bottom of the cush drive. 2 side by side would fit so I needed something to pack the difference and used a socket and then retained it with a couple of strong washers and a nut. With that holding firm I could then attack from the rear through the disc brake side and had a nice surface area to tap through. A few sharp drifts and they all came out and they annoyingly were clean as a whistle but I had to finish the first one with a hacksaw and gradually lever it out. Some minor damage will clean up ok but finally they can be get given to specialists to apply a good finish.

"

22-11-2015, 03:53 PM

Ah ha! Cheers Albi, I will give that a whirl. Didn't even think about using a socket head to pack it out with. I'll give that a whirl in a moment when the wife takes the dog out (freedom vouchers ensue). Will report back soon.

On another note, I am only removing them for powder coating, if I had known I would have left them but the general reason I saw for removal on other forums was to prep for coating. Damn!!

You live and learn.

Kev

Albie · 22-11-2015, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrobot

Ah ha! Cheers Albi, I will give that a whirl. Didn't even think about using a socket head to pack it out with. I'll give that a whirl in a moment when the wife takes the dog out (freedom vouchers ensue). Will report back soon.

On another note, I am only removing them for powder coating, if I had known I would have left them but the general reason I saw for removal on other forums was to prep for coating. Damn!!

You live and learn.

Kev

Same here mate. Some say yes some say no. This was Redditch Powdercoat who have years of experience. Bearings are the only exception because the release oil and grease when heated or blasted. It really also depends on the condition of the rubber whether cracked or not. Read my thread to help if you want as I am doing a COMPLETE top to bottom restoration and as much info provided as I can.

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=52061

22-11-2015, 05:04 PM

I'll take a peek of that. Thanks mate.
On a good note, my hands are dirty again, on a bad note, the m10 bolt trick didn't work. I'm wondering if it would harm the alloy if I weld up some pieces to the sleeves and batter them out as the bolts/socket/washer combo kept slipping after a few bashes.

Cheers again for the help mate, everything is worth a punt.

Kev

21-11-2015, 07:43 PM	#1
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	1994 M600 owner coming to say hello! Hi everyone, pleased to meet you! I've just recently aquired a 1994 M600 which I've decided to strip down and tart up over these cold winter months. I was advised to come here from the chaps over at Moto Rapido as I may be on the look out for some new forks due to the stanchions on mine being pitted and the fork cartridge apparently being rolled into the stanchions in the factory. I will no doubt be picking brains and asking annoyingly obvious questions very soon. Kev

21-11-2015, 08:49 PM	#2
Dirty Bockloks Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Bike: No Bike Yet! Posts: 4,601	Welcome. Best Monster and best forum to be on. Looking forward to build pics __________________ Wounds heal, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever Beware of eBay

22-11-2015, 01:01 PM	#5
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	Plenty of info on here. Use the search function or just ask anything you need too. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

22-11-2015, 01:20 PM	#6
Darkness . Join Date: May 2007 Location: Stockbridge Bike: M900 Posts: 1,984	Hi Kev. I hope to see details of your build as it progresses. Have you got any mod's planned, or shall you get it up and running first? Cheers __________________ Original and Best since 1993

22-11-2015, 08:26 PM	#11
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	This is the M600 on the ride back from Hull when I bought it. This was the beast last week before I stumbled across this cush drive system. Oh and below is the Yammy I did last year. No wet roads for this one. Kev Last edited by kevrobot; 23-11-2015 at 01:20 PM..

22-11-2015, 10:24 AM	#3
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	Cheers mate! I'll do my best to keep up with photographing the build although it's halted at the moment because of these cush driver bushes and forks. Grrrrrr! Still great fun though. Kev

22-11-2015, 12:21 PM	#4
Zimbo Too much time on my hands member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Stonehouse, Glos Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,085	Welcome Kev, you're certainly in the right place :-)

22-11-2015, 01:50 PM	#7
Nottsbiker Guest Posts: n/a	Welcome buddy! I used some threaded bar, large washers and a socket to draw my cush drive rubbers out and it worked a treat

22-11-2015, 03:29 PM	#8
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	Hiya everyone! Thanks for the kind words. Nottsbiker, I have tried that but unfortunately that only took the inner sleeve and rubbers out so I'm trying various things to get the outer sleeve out of the wheels. So far I've tried stuffing bolts behind and drifting that way (I saw this on YouTube and thought it was worth a try), I'm currently grinding them with a dremmel so we will see where that takes me. I was considering a reamer to shave away piece by piece until they're gone. Darkness, before I tore it down I chopped the back end and put some micro indicators on the back to tidy it all up. I also got rid of the filter housing for some k&n cones and upped the jetting to 145s. Seemed to have worked as the bike lunged a lot when cruising along....I discovered 125 jets in there and the needle clip was right out. I understand stock are 132.5? Anyway it rode well and was nice and smooth through all throttle positions and gears after my tinker. Apart from that I am planning on keeping it fairly stock and just tarting it up and lightening the load by removing any unnecessary bits of plastic etc. Kev

22-11-2015, 03:45 PM	#12
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	Heres my method I cut and pasted from removing the m900 inserts this summer. Needless to say I needed to not have bothered at all because powdercoating wouldn't have affected them and they were not worn. " After the epic FAIL in even getting 1 cush drive out yesterday and drilling the centres out after giving up. I cleared the rubber out as good as possible and tried the dremel attack but wasn't getting very far and ended up pushing one further down. Got my engineering head on and watched a video and couldn't quite see how he was getting them out but I realised that there is a gap about 8mm at the bottom. If I could somehow get something to expand under and slidehammer it would be easy. I did think about making a tool but that's madness when you want them out now but if the idea helps others I am happy. I got a long M10 bolt so the head would sit under the bottom of the cush drive. 2 side by side would fit so I needed something to pack the difference and used a socket and then retained it with a couple of strong washers and a nut. With that holding firm I could then attack from the rear through the disc brake side and had a nice surface area to tap through. A few sharp drifts and they all came out and they annoyingly were clean as a whistle but I had to finish the first one with a hacksaw and gradually lever it out. Some minor damage will clean up ok but finally they can be get given to specialists to apply a good finish. " __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

22-11-2015, 03:53 PM	#13
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	Ah ha! Cheers Albi, I will give that a whirl. Didn't even think about using a socket head to pack it out with. I'll give that a whirl in a moment when the wife takes the dog out (freedom vouchers ensue). Will report back soon. On another note, I am only removing them for powder coating, if I had known I would have left them but the general reason I saw for removal on other forums was to prep for coating. Damn!! You live and learn. Kev

22-11-2015, 05:04 PM	#15
kevrobot Guest Posts: n/a	I'll take a peek of that. Thanks mate. On a good note, my hands are dirty again, on a bad note, the m10 bolt trick didn't work. I'm wondering if it would harm the alloy if I weld up some pieces to the sleeves and batter them out as the bolts/socket/washer combo kept slipping after a few bashes. Cheers again for the help mate, everything is worth a punt. Kev