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24-07-2017, 11:51 AM | #1 |
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M696 Leaking rear shock abosorber
Hello Gents.
After 4 months of Monster ownership I've encountered my first issue with the bike. While riding through France earlier in the month, I started to notice a few drops of fluid on the rear swing arm of the bike. After a couple of clean ups it's obvious that the problem needs looking at, as the shock itself is now a little gunked up at the bottom of the shock near the collars to tighten/loosen. Any suggestions or ideas to the type of repair/cost? I don't have any photos of the bike, but I'll add them to the thread shortly. Thanks, Tom |
24-07-2017, 12:38 PM | #2 |
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I had a leak on my 916 Ohlins shock due to a chip in the chrome on the pushrod. Other than a new pushrod (around £100 IIRC) a service fixed it. I think the service (at K-tech) was around £80-100 although this was a few years ago.
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24-07-2017, 01:28 PM | #3 |
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If it's the same as the 1100 Evo, then it'll be a Sachs, which I don't think is rebuildable.
This could be just the excuse you need to fit an upgraded shock. I've got an Öhlins DU737 on mine, which should also fit yours, but there are loads of other options available. Nitron get good reviews for quality and value and Boris fitted a very nice example to his Evo recently. http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=55432 You'd also be able to have it tailored to your exact weight and riding style. Alternatively, maybe Boris would be prepared to sell you his old Sachs unit... |
24-07-2017, 01:42 PM | #4 |
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Thanks for the replies you guys.
Just been on the horn to my local Ducati mechanic and he's going to have a look at it at the weekend, but reckons that most of the OEM shocks aren't serviceable (which is what I've read). As far as upgrading goes, for those who've made the swap, is it really that noticeable? How does it alter the characteristics of the ride? |
24-07-2017, 03:01 PM | #5 | |
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I think you only notice a rear shock when it's doing something wrong.
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24-07-2017, 06:55 PM | #6 | |
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For best bang for buck I recommend Hagon..... and yes I've got one. |
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24-07-2017, 07:23 PM | #7 |
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I have a Wilbers rear shock on my 1100 Evo, it is only £100 or so more than the Ohlins but it is fully adjustable etc.
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=50851 |
24-07-2017, 07:24 PM | #8 |
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Sorry, but that is utter rubbish to say that you will not notice any benifit.
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24-07-2017, 01:43 PM | #9 |
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I just checked the part numbers and the 696 and 1100 Evo units are the same: 36520802A.
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24-07-2017, 04:07 PM | #10 |
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I had an Ohlins on my M600 and it was amazing. Miles better than the Sachs on my M821 in quality of ride. Just converted the MV to Ohlins all round too and it is great.
That said, Hagon are good if you are on a budget, for a bit more my recommendation is Nitron for price vs. performance. |
24-07-2017, 05:57 PM | #11 |
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Ohlins are worth it but unless you can source a low mileage s/hand one Nitron would be the next best option with a more realistic price and from what I can gather no real less performance. Your looking at about, I would guess somewhere around £800-1000 for a new Ohlins and the Nitron comes in at about half that. I'd keep my eyes out for a s/hand Ohlins but they don't come up for sale that often. And when you factor in the service cost for a s/hand Ohlins the Nitron wins hands down.
Hagon would be your budget option.
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24-07-2017, 06:37 PM | #12 |
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There are a number of Öhlins on eBay (all new). The best price seems to be £487 delivered.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182647621244 I think if I were shopping for one now, I'd definitely think about Nitron or K-tech (I've got K-tech fork internals). You'd get the shock built to your weight whereas, with the Öhlins, you'll have to use their stock spring of 115 N/mm. (Of course, you could change it yourself, but that's more expense.) |
24-07-2017, 07:22 PM | #13 |
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The 696 OEM Sachs shock is not rebuildable. When mine ceased to cushion my bum from the horrid Surrey potholes and bumps on my commute, I got a rebuildable Nitron replacement.
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25-07-2017, 07:37 PM | #14 |
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It'd be my guess that the 696/796/1100 Monsters with the cantilever suspension the same as the old 750/900SS are oversprung to begin with, so would need a lighter spring. My SS always felt better with the Mrs on the back than it did solo. No complaints about the Showa adjustable forks either on the SS which is odd since they are the same forks and don't work as well on the Monster. Since fitting the Ohlins shock on the Monster it has made them feel worse. I suspect that again they are oversprung and the damping adjustment is inadequate or simply too crude to actually do anything worthwhile.
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25-07-2017, 08:16 PM | #15 | |
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As seems the norm these days, both the standard rear shock and forks use progressive springs. I never could find out the rates for the rear spring but the fork springs are 5.5 Nm - 8.0 Nm, so pretty soft really. In comparison, the springs K-tech fitted were 8.5 Nm (linear). Also, I think the stock fork oil is 7.5 weight while K-tech used 5.0. |
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