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25-10-2024, 05:55 PM | #1 |
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Rolling refresh -oil line mod S2R 1000
Starting new thread just for this job (other “rolling refresh” posts refer).
Well I cracked on and did the oil line mod and finished the minor service. Oil line mod install all went smoothly enough and I’m happy with the result. The one exception was the total PITA getting both oil lines through the wire guide attached to engine case on lower front left. After various failed approaches in the end brute force and molegrips on the wire guide did the job. In hindsight it probably would have been smarter to remove the wire guide and remodel it a bit off the bike with a vice/hammer/molegrips to make it a tad wider (or to fit both lines through before refitting), but I was not keen to undo the casing bolt to take it off. I do hope my new oil line o rings were not damaged in the lengthy and somewhat brutal process of getting the lines through the very tight guide (so far so good after one static run). Sadly my newly painted starter motor already got some scuffs from my various attempts to wrangle the pesky oil lines through the guide. I may touch it up (again!) later. |
25-10-2024, 05:57 PM | #2 |
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Plastic clips to hold the oil lines together (but not touching) work great. If anyone’s interested it’s part number 75811421A (Hose Guide for Ducati Hypermotard amongst others). Also pleased the only point the oil lines come together and touch - in the wire guide - is where they both have extra rubber coated protection. So hopefully no issues with vibration/rubbing oil lines.
Rotating the lines where they fit into the oil cooler before tightening helps fine tune the oil line routing up the side/over front cylinder to look neat and avoid the lines touching electrical cables or frame, engine etc Accurate torque settings (25 Nm) on oil lines are noted as critical for safety in the workshop manual. I’d got some quality crows foot attachements for my torque wrench to sort this (using them fitted at 90 degrees to torque wrench to avoid changing torque calibrations). However, I had already discovered when taking the oil lines off that the fact these crows foot spanners only have a gap and are not fully open jawed makes them grip better but also be very tricky to use in the limited space. This was especially the case at the engine end of the lines where the starter motor is very close. So I’d already bought some cheap fully open jawed ones and in the end these proved the better option to use for all the oil line fittings tightened in this task, whilst holding the oil nipples still with a regular open spanner. The oil nipples have higher torque/strong threadlock so shouldn’t move, but I preferred to hold them steady just in case The Mr Gazza oil cooler guard needed a little tweak to the brackets in the vice to fit perfectly, but it looks great. Thank you Mr Gazza enterprises for this high quality good value product! |
26-10-2024, 01:56 PM | #3 |
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+1 for Gazza'a oil cooler guard. Works a treat on my rebuilt Ducati.
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26-10-2024, 06:05 PM | #4 |
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It's all looking very smart and clean.
I note that your oil line curves up to the cooler. I'm sure that the wrap under lines I fitted have got right angled fittings at the bottom to shoot them up to the cooler from where the guide is. I did note when I bought them (from a Hypermotard I think?) that there were several variants I did away with the wire guide and improvised with some cable ties, but I think I'll have a go at bending up a custom guide from stainless wire. I'm sorry that you had to resort to bending one of the brackets on the guard David. I go to a lot of trouble to pack them with a tight fitting piece of wood between the brackets to prevent exactly that happening in transit. I note you've had it 3 years, so maybe it's had a knock in storage? Thanks for the compliments though. I still have plenty of guards and I now supply stainless screws to mount them, as some of the original screws are a bit challenged for length. Still available here.http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...er+stone+guard
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26-10-2024, 10:28 PM | #5 |
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Thanks Gazza. And yes I remember guard came especially well packed with a free piece of wood and bubble wrap some years back, so most likely it got moved a tad in storage in various places over the years. But anyway the brackets only needed the slightest of correction to fit perfectly and it was easy enough to do in a few minutes. Original screws worked fine for mounting as the brackets are not too thick, but supplying slightly longer stainless screws is a nice touch - I may get some down the line.
So anyone wanting to protect their expensive (and no longer available from Ducati) oil cooler would be well advised to fit a Mr Gazza protector! As to the oil lines, the return line is still the original one from the S2R 1000 and was always curved like this, so the new Hypermotard delivery line which is also curved matches it and it’s routing very well (after some careful adjustment on orientation of how it attaches to oil cooler). If there are other lines with right angles you’d probably want to swap both to make them match/route alongside each other. Making up a bespoke wire guide in stainless wire would probably be the best of all solutions for securing them, but if you want to use the wire guide that’s already there it will work fine provided you’re prepared for some rather frustrating grappling to fit both lines through it. |
26-10-2024, 10:55 PM | #6 |
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Aw! Thanks for the plug mate.
I had a special look at the oil lines this afternoon on my shamefully rather buried Monster. I clearly had a Mandela moment regarding the elbows in the lines! Mine are continuous and curved just like yours. It probably stems from looking at countless oil line sets when searching for mine some years ago. I distinctly recall some with elbows, perhaps there is some reason to avoid those for fitting to Monsters, but I can't remember what that is.. I'm getting to that age now..
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