I've done it now! (696 test ride review)

MrsC_772 · 05-09-2009, 06:48 PM

My thoughts on the 696 below.

The good points:

* Confidence inspiring handling - I wouldn't go so far as to say I'll start loving downhill left hand hairpins on the Monster, but I felt so much more confident going into bends. Instead of that horrible knot in my stomach on a 90 degree left hander, I found the Bike Grin developing!
* The lovely forgiving engine. My current bike is a 400cc Suzuki Bandit, where I'm constantly going up and down the gearbox, chasing a limited powerband, while the Monster had oodles of grunt, whatever gear I was in (ok, apart from bottom which is lumpy and horrible) with plenty left over. I didn't have that feeling that I was in the wrong gear in lots of bends - the engine makes up for my inadequacies as a rider.
* Torque - I hadn't realised what I was missing until now!
* It's so light! The 400 felt a little top heavy in comparison when I got back on it afterwards.
* Nice light clutch and reasonable gearbox.
* Front brake is usable even at low speed - no fork dive and traffic light wobbliness.
* Character - it isn't one of those bikes that is screaming come on if you think you're hard enough, but it still has presence. The 696 looks are growing on me.
* It's red, Italian, and a Ducati!

Not so good points

* The vibey twin thing took a bit of getting used too (and made me appreciate how smooth the inline 4 engine in my baby Bandit is) but hey.
* Ride is certainly firmer than I'm used to (the flip side of the sharper steering I guess - stiffer suspension).
* I can see why the blokes might look to change the seat, as you're pressed right up against the tank.
* The back brake is as useless as an appendix.
* I can see why magazine journalists don't rate it as a motorway bike. I'm used to the naked bike windblast, but combined with the vibeytwin thing it would be quite tiring for long distances.
* The sound on starting it up was, dare I say it, a little agricultural. (No doubt this will be met with advice to buy Termis ...)
* It will make me a lazier rider, rather than necessarily a technically better one, but it will make me a much more confident and happier one.

After a certain amount of consideration (only one cup of tea's worth), I gave Snells in Alton a deposit, and all being well, should have the new toy next weekend or the weekend after.

05-09-2009, 07:10 PM

well done and congrats on the new purchase

05-09-2009, 07:37 PM

Yeah, baby! Well done, Eleanor! How funny, Andy was supposed to be getting a Monster after passing his test (how's he doing?) and you end up buying one!

If you get the bike by next Saturday, come and join us at Box Hill from about 10.30 to noon-ish to show it off. There's a Ducatisti monthly meet at Box Hill every second Sunday of a month, so you may catch it perfectly.

Albie · 05-09-2009, 07:59 PM

Oh well done you. Those positives were correct and those negatives will change Im pretty sure.

MrsC_772 · 05-09-2009, 08:30 PM

Andy points out that nobody has said he can't buy a Monster too! (He did admit that they had more character than all the Japanese 4s he has been looking at). Module 1 passed, with Module 2 on Thursday so keeping fingers crossed.

If we do make it to Box Hill next Sunday, Andy asks if he could have a sit on your 695 (just to get a feel for how the ergonomics differ from the 696).

CK & AK · 05-09-2009, 09:12 PM

The 696 shouldnt make you a lazier rider MrsC_772.
Its light & nimble - and you can really make it work hard for you if you wish to. The larger monsters 'can' make you lazy - but only if you let them & dont give them their head on occasions.

Well done on the purchase, just get the rear suspension adjusted for you when you pick it up as they do come out of the box on a hard setting. To soften it off makes a lot of difference. (AK has done several now & all have remarked how much better the bike is)
See you out and about soon then

CK

05-09-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsC_772

Andy points out that nobody has said he can't buy a Monster too! (He did admit that they had more character than all the Japanese 4s he has been looking at). Module 1 passed, with Module 2 on Thursday so keeping fingers crossed.

If we do make it to Box Hill next Sunday, Andy asks if he could have a sit on your 695 (just to get a feel for how the ergonomics differ from the 696).

Sure he can. You can't though, as you'd start having second thoughts and would want to cancel your order!

Nickj · 05-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Not so good points?? Naww still positives

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsC_772

The vibey twin thing took a bit of getting used too (and made me appreciate how smooth the inline 4 engine in my baby Bandit is) but hey

LOL That's one of the smoother engines too, its actually really handy as you always know what it's doing

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsC_772

The back brake is as useless as an appendix.

They all are useless good job too!!, if they do work they'll have you off on your ass first time you need to stop quickly... from a medical perspective a back brake would make a really bad appendix

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsC_772

I can see why magazine journalists don't rate it as a motorway bike. I'm used to the naked bike windblast, but combined with the vibeytwin thing it would be quite tiring for long distances.

Hehehehe some people pay good money for a vibro massager, and hey you get one for free

It's more the firm seat that send your bum into oblivion

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsC_772

It will make me a lazier rider, rather than necessarily a technically better one, but it will make me a much more confident and happier one.

Ohhh no not lazier, its a much more immersive experience.

You'll love it, best bikes ever

Liz · 06-09-2009, 09:54 PM

Congratulations on your purchase! I sat on Sweetpea's 696 yesterday at Pembrey - quite different to my M600. It looked 'taller' but wasn't, the tank seemed longer which seemed to make you sit back rather than more 'upright' as on my bike and it definately felt lighter. Daren't have a test ride on one - couldn't afford to buy it if I liked it!

06-09-2009, 10:03 PM

well done that is one of the bikes i would have liked to get

Liz · 06-09-2009, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kneedown

well done that is one of the bikes i would have liked to get

Isn't that a 'downsize' from an S4R though?

Albie · 07-09-2009, 07:45 AM

I downsized from s4/916 to m1100 which is slower and down 6hp but wouldn't go down to a 696.

CK & AK · 07-09-2009, 07:57 AM

I 'downsized' from the M1000sie (ridden hard for 4.5yrs) to the 696 to much derision from sportsbike mates - and also on forums from those who dont know me or who have ridden with me.
I have as much fun on this bike as the other on all our local roads & beyond, tho dont go on the straightline dual carriageways if there is a better twisty route.
It happily keeps along with 'big bikes' and some of the time outhandles & will go past on bends too - it all depends on whom you are riding with......

The only thing I miss is the engine braking of the DS engine - but in comparison, the turning in is so much more nimble. Who can honestly say that they use the whole rev range in each gear on the road?

Horses for courses tho.

CK

Albie · 07-09-2009, 08:06 AM

No disrespect meant but its too small for me as in stature. And your right I wont ever use the power of 1100 and never used the more power of s4. My only 2 reasons for choice were 2 up riding and liked it because it was taller.

05-09-2009, 06:48 PM	#1
MrsC_772 Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Farnborough Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 713	I've done it now! (696 test ride review) My thoughts on the 696 below. The good points: * Confidence inspiring handling - I wouldn't go so far as to say I'll start loving downhill left hand hairpins on the Monster, but I felt so much more confident going into bends. Instead of that horrible knot in my stomach on a 90 degree left hander, I found the Bike Grin developing! * The lovely forgiving engine. My current bike is a 400cc Suzuki Bandit, where I'm constantly going up and down the gearbox, chasing a limited powerband, while the Monster had oodles of grunt, whatever gear I was in (ok, apart from bottom which is lumpy and horrible) with plenty left over. I didn't have that feeling that I was in the wrong gear in lots of bends - the engine makes up for my inadequacies as a rider. * Torque - I hadn't realised what I was missing until now! * It's so light! The 400 felt a little top heavy in comparison when I got back on it afterwards. * Nice light clutch and reasonable gearbox. * Front brake is usable even at low speed - no fork dive and traffic light wobbliness. * Character - it isn't one of those bikes that is screaming come on if you think you're hard enough, but it still has presence. The 696 looks are growing on me. * It's red, Italian, and a Ducati! Not so good points * The vibey twin thing took a bit of getting used too (and made me appreciate how smooth the inline 4 engine in my baby Bandit is) but hey. * Ride is certainly firmer than I'm used to (the flip side of the sharper steering I guess - stiffer suspension). * I can see why the blokes might look to change the seat, as you're pressed right up against the tank. * The back brake is as useless as an appendix. * I can see why magazine journalists don't rate it as a motorway bike. I'm used to the naked bike windblast, but combined with the vibeytwin thing it would be quite tiring for long distances. * The sound on starting it up was, dare I say it, a little agricultural. (No doubt this will be met with advice to buy Termis ...) * It will make me a lazier rider, rather than necessarily a technically better one, but it will make me a much more confident and happier one. After a certain amount of consideration (only one cup of tea's worth), I gave Snells in Alton a deposit, and all being well, should have the new toy next weekend or the weekend after.

05-09-2009, 07:59 PM	#4
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	Oh well done you. Those positives were correct and those negatives will change Im pretty sure. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

06-09-2009, 09:54 PM	#9
Liz Co-ordination Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calne Bike: S2r Posts: 1,361	Congratulations on your purchase! I sat on Sweetpea's 696 yesterday at Pembrey - quite different to my M600. It looked 'taller' but wasn't, the tank seemed longer which seemed to make you sit back rather than more 'upright' as on my bike and it definately felt lighter. Daren't have a test ride on one - couldn't afford to buy it if I liked it! __________________ Never give up, never surrender!

07-09-2009, 07:45 AM	#12
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	I downsized from s4/916 to m1100 which is slower and down 6hp but wouldn't go down to a 696. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

07-09-2009, 08:06 AM	#14
Albie Fanactical volunteer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kent Bike: M900 Posts: 9,034	No disrespect meant but its too small for me as in stature. And your right I wont ever use the power of 1100 and never used the more power of s4. My only 2 reasons for choice were 2 up riding and liked it because it was taller. __________________ http://albies93m900.blogspot.co.uk/

05-09-2009, 07:10 PM	#2
DavidEJM Guest Posts: n/a	well done and congrats on the new purchase

05-09-2009, 07:37 PM	#3
Paivi Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, baby! Well done, Eleanor! How funny, Andy was supposed to be getting a Monster after passing his test (how's he doing?) and you end up buying one! If you get the bike by next Saturday, come and join us at Box Hill from about 10.30 to noon-ish to show it off. There's a Ducatisti monthly meet at Box Hill every second Sunday of a month, so you may catch it perfectly.

05-09-2009, 08:30 PM	#5
MrsC_772 Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Farnborough Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 713	Andy points out that nobody has said he can't buy a Monster too! (He did admit that they had more character than all the Japanese 4s he has been looking at). Module 1 passed, with Module 2 on Thursday so keeping fingers crossed. If we do make it to Box Hill next Sunday, Andy asks if he could have a sit on your 695 (just to get a feel for how the ergonomics differ from the 696).

05-09-2009, 09:12 PM	#6
CK & AK flob-a-lob-a-lob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NW Surrey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 3,306	The 696 shouldnt make you a lazier rider MrsC_772. Its light & nimble - and you can really make it work hard for you if you wish to. The larger monsters 'can' make you lazy - but only if you let them & dont give them their head on occasions. Well done on the purchase, just get the rear suspension adjusted for you when you pick it up as they do come out of the box on a hard setting. To soften it off makes a lot of difference. (AK has done several now & all have remarked how much better the bike is) See you out and about soon then CK

06-09-2009, 10:03 PM	#10
kneedown Guest Posts: n/a	well done that is one of the bikes i would have liked to get

07-09-2009, 07:57 AM	#13
CK & AK flob-a-lob-a-lob Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NW Surrey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 3,306	I 'downsized' from the M1000sie (ridden hard for 4.5yrs) to the 696 to much derision from sportsbike mates - and also on forums from those who dont know me or who have ridden with me. I have as much fun on this bike as the other on all our local roads & beyond, tho dont go on the straightline dual carriageways if there is a better twisty route. It happily keeps along with 'big bikes' and some of the time outhandles & will go past on bends too - it all depends on whom you are riding with...... The only thing I miss is the engine braking of the DS engine - but in comparison, the turning in is so much more nimble. Who can honestly say that they use the whole rev range in each gear on the road? Horses for courses tho. CK