S4 Immobilizer

28-01-2021, 07:46 AM

Is it possible to change the instruments in a S4 2001 without reflashing the ECU?

As I see from the electrical diagram the only component of the immobilizer that sits in to the instrumenst is the code led. I think this is possible to relocate it in the new instruments.

Any info?

jerry · 29-01-2021, 03:22 PM

I have an S4 I have changed ECU without reflash but it was a new ECU re: changing instruments im not certain but i believe somehow they are coded its not just the LED

Darren69 · 29-01-2021, 03:26 PM

Yea, the immobilser unit is inside the clocks on these and needs to match with the ECU code.

29-01-2021, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren69

Yea, the immobilser unit is inside the clocks on these and needs to match with the ECU code.

not the immobilizer is not inside the clocks.

this is the immobilizer

slob · 29-01-2021, 03:42 PM

I *think* MY2001 and MY2002 are different, but I could be wrong.

I'm fairly sure Avanti Race Parts have some info about S4 immobilisers on the website but I can't get onto it right now, I'll try and post a link later

29-01-2021, 04:43 PM

I would be thankful slob

Darren69 · 29-01-2021, 05:13 PM

Ah, I just re-read the posts and Rob is correct, the '01 is different, the imobilizer isn't in the clocks for that year only so you should in theory be able to switch the clocks on an '01 with some other clocks from an '01 Monster that has the same setup, like the 900Sie for example, with no issues.

Avanti or Neil at Cornerspeed are of course the guys to talk to regarding this as I've not done it.

jerry · 30-01-2021, 03:28 PM

My S4 is an 2001 immoniliser is under headstock , the 02 03 models use different intruments with more idiot lights ,, but I have not worked on one to see the innards

31-01-2021, 12:13 AM

mine is also a 01 with immo under headstock.

slob · 02-02-2021, 07:12 AM

Avanti website is back online but I can’t find any info on the S4 immobiliser.
I’d try unlugging your instrument panel and see if it starts (I have a race ECU, without immobiliser, on one of my bikes and it runs with clocks unplugged)
Otherwise email Avanti and ask the question directly http://www.avantiraceparts.co.uk/contact.php?id=7

02-02-2021, 03:19 PM

thank you slob I will try this but the problem is that my instruments are crashed and all the cables are missing. Im doing a full rebuild so when I will be ready I will check it

Brendan S4 · 02-02-2021, 03:22 PM

On my S4 the speedo etc are all analogue and not digital, these clocks can be changed as they are not linked to the immobiliser, 2001 and some early 2002.
The later clocks with digital mileage and additional warning lights are all linked to the immobiliser.
Hope this helps.

Brendan S4 · 02-02-2021, 03:30 PM

This link should show the speedo etc , these are the ones without the immobiliser.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9426.0

03-02-2021, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendan S4

This link should show the speedo etc , these are the ones without the immobiliser.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9426.0

same as mine. Thanks Brendan!!!

28-01-2021, 07:46 AM	#1
runnerma Guest Posts: n/a	S4 Immobilizer Is it possible to change the instruments in a S4 2001 without reflashing the ECU? As I see from the electrical diagram the only component of the immobilizer that sits in to the instrumenst is the code led. I think this is possible to relocate it in the new instruments. Any info?

29-01-2021, 03:22 PM	#2
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,832	I have an S4 I have changed ECU without reflash but it was a new ECU re: changing instruments im not certain but i believe somehow they are coded its not just the LED __________________ MONSTERMAN

29-01-2021, 03:26 PM	#3
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,042	Yea, the immobilser unit is inside the clocks on these and needs to match with the ECU code. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

29-01-2021, 05:13 PM	#7
Darren69 Transmaniacon MOC Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Sutton In Ashfield Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 6,042	Ah, I just re-read the posts and Rob is correct, the '01 is different, the imobilizer isn't in the clocks for that year only so you should in theory be able to switch the clocks on an '01 with some other clocks from an '01 Monster that has the same setup, like the 900Sie for example, with no issues. Avanti or Neil at Cornerspeed are of course the guys to talk to regarding this as I've not done it. __________________ Roast Beef Monster! Termignoni and Bucci - Italian for pipe and slippers! S4 Fogarty, S4R 07T, 748, Series 1 Mirage

30-01-2021, 03:28 PM	#8
jerry Old Git Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cricklade Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,832	My S4 is an 2001 immoniliser is under headstock , the 02 03 models use different intruments with more idiot lights ,, but I have not worked on one to see the innards __________________ MONSTERMAN

29-01-2021, 03:42 PM	#5
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,716	I think MY2001 and MY2002 are different, but I could be wrong. I'm fairly sure Avanti Race Parts have some info about S4 immobilisers on the website but I can't get onto it right now, I'll try and post a link later

29-01-2021, 04:43 PM	#6
runnerma Guest Posts: n/a	I would be thankful slob

31-01-2021, 12:13 AM	#9
runnerma Guest Posts: n/a	mine is also a 01 with immo under headstock.

02-02-2021, 07:12 AM	#10
slob . Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: East London Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 9,716	Avanti website is back online but I can’t find any info on the S4 immobiliser. I’d try unlugging your instrument panel and see if it starts (I have a race ECU, without immobiliser, on one of my bikes and it runs with clocks unplugged) Otherwise email Avanti and ask the question directly http://www.avantiraceparts.co.uk/contact.php?id=7

02-02-2021, 03:19 PM	#11
runnerma Guest Posts: n/a	thank you slob I will try this but the problem is that my instruments are crashed and all the cables are missing. Im doing a full rebuild so when I will be ready I will check it

02-02-2021, 03:22 PM	#12
Brendan S4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: motherwell Bike: S4 Posts: 26	On my S4 the speedo etc are all analogue and not digital, these clocks can be changed as they are not linked to the immobiliser, 2001 and some early 2002. The later clocks with digital mileage and additional warning lights are all linked to the immobiliser. Hope this helps.

02-02-2021, 03:30 PM	#13
Brendan S4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: motherwell Bike: S4 Posts: 26	This link should show the speedo etc , these are the ones without the immobiliser. http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9426.0