AFR kit for a 1995 M600

Foggy · 12-10-2024, 07:43 AM

Is anybody selling an air fuel ratio kit with sensor to fit a 1995 Monster 600 or can you suggest any recommendations of where I can buy one from ? I have found several on the market but not sure which one is suitable for my bike and a lot of them seem only suitable for cars.

dacs · 12-10-2024, 09:36 PM

No experience of carbie Monsters but I'm sure that your's won't have an access point in the headers for a lambda probe so you could discount anything that uses one. Then I think you need to start ringing suppliers of what's left and ask if their product is suitable. Might be cheaper in the long run to book a dyno run with someone, they should include the data you want as part of the report. Why do you want one by the way?

Stop press - I was told today that the carbies DID have lambda ports in the headers - presumably for factory set-up?

Foggy · Yesterday, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dacs

No experience of carbie Monsters but I'm sure that your's won't have an access point in the headers for a lambda probe so you could discount anything that uses one. Then I think you need to start ringing suppliers of what's left and ask if their product is suitable. Might be cheaper in the long run to book a dyno run with someone, they should include the data you want as part of the report. Why do you want one by the way?

Stop press - I was told today that the carbies DID have lambda ports in the headers - presumably for factory set-up?

OK thanks, yeah it looks like there is a bung in the pipe which I assume is for the sensor.

Kato · Today, 11:04 AM

Why only suitable for cars ? AFR is the same on any engine whether its petrol, Deisel, LPG, Methol it matters not

Admitedly the cheap ones tend to be sold with a 52mm gauge which might lend itself to a car more easily

however assuming all you want to do is measure as no way to adjust AFR when riding carby bike so probably better off with a decent probe style analyser, make sure it is wideband

It won't be cheap - as all of the lower priced ones are just a narrowband controller with a gauge interface pretending to be wideband

I would still question the need for such kit as can still only ever have it spot on for one condition on a carb motor which will change with atmospheric conditions and therefor be wrong 20 minutes later, however if like a few of us you just have to have a funky new tool --- this is the one I'd recomend as a starter

It will do both probe and fixed lamda

https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/inno...urvzY8LITfOsXF

12-10-2024, 07:43 AM	#1
Foggy Registered User Join Date: May 2024 Location: Diss Bike: M600 Posts: 31	AFR kit for a 1995 M600 Is anybody selling an air fuel ratio kit with sensor to fit a 1995 Monster 600 or can you suggest any recommendations of where I can buy one from ? I have found several on the market but not sure which one is suitable for my bike and a lot of them seem only suitable for cars.

12-10-2024, 09:36 PM	#2
dacs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Aylsham Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 199	No experience of carbie Monsters but I'm sure that your's won't have an access point in the headers for a lambda probe so you could discount anything that uses one. Then I think you need to start ringing suppliers of what's left and ask if their product is suitable. Might be cheaper in the long run to book a dyno run with someone, they should include the data you want as part of the report. Why do you want one by the way? Stop press - I was told today that the carbies DID have lambda ports in the headers - presumably for factory set-up? __________________ NFN Last edited by dacs; 13-10-2024 at 04:58 PM.. Reason: correction

Today, 11:04 AM	#4
Kato Dismantled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Molesey Bike: Multiple Monsters Posts: 2,241	Why only suitable for cars ? AFR is the same on any engine whether its petrol, Deisel, LPG, Methol it matters not Admitedly the cheap ones tend to be sold with a 52mm gauge which might lend itself to a car more easily however assuming all you want to do is measure as no way to adjust AFR when riding carby bike so probably better off with a decent probe style analyser, make sure it is wideband It won't be cheap - as all of the lower priced ones are just a narrowband controller with a gauge interface pretending to be wideband I would still question the need for such kit as can still only ever have it spot on for one condition on a carb motor which will change with atmospheric conditions and therefor be wrong 20 minutes later, however if like a few of us you just have to have a funky new tool --- this is the one I'd recomend as a starter It will do both probe and fixed lamda https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/inno...urvzY8LITfOsXF __________________ "Political correctness is just intellectual colonialism and psychological fascism for the creation of thought crime"