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Old 07-05-2020, 10:26 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by billy 192 View Post
Looking in the manual it says

474 mm (right leg)
349 mm (left leg)

and are they Showa or Marzocchi or do i find out when i strip them :-)

Billy
That 500/538cm3 oil figure I quoted was for the Showa forks, which suggests that the 474/349cm3 figures you mentioned must be for Marzocchis.

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Originally Posted by slob View Post
(for 696 at least) one leg is a traditional USD fork with damper rod, the other has some sort of cartridge
You're right, slob, as these parts diagrams show:

MY2011 Note the two springs


MY2012 on Note the single spring


Have a look at this extract from a 2016 thread regarding Marzocchi forks http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=53285 (bear in mind it is four years old so the prices quoted may have changed).

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Originally Posted by jonzi View Post
The 796 forks are a bit poop.

I spoke with Maxton recently and they said you can do various things with them, but by far the best thing is to get the bottoms machined
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"The forks on the Monster 796 are Marzocchi upside down forks, they are basically a cheap pair of upside down forks. Internally they are set up with the spring, rebound damping and compression damping in one leg and only a spring (with no damping) in the other leg.

The forks have a lot compression damping, especially when they move a small distance - over little bumps on the road. This shows itself by giving a very hard and twitchy ride. The springs in the forks are actually too soft so the bike dives a bit under braking. The Monster 796 forks also spring back at you when you let go of the brake, this is because there is not enough rebound damping. A lot of people also describe the front as being "vague" and not getting much feedback from the front end, this is a combination of the forks being over damped on compression and under damped on rebound and under sprung. The forks are not adjustable for damping or preload so there is nothing you can do to quickly try and improve the handling on the front end.

Unfortunately the damping system fitted to this fork will never work. Because of its design it will always either have too much compression damping or not enough rebound damping. To cure the handling problems you need to replace the fork internals so there is damping and springing in both legs. We recommend fitting our GP20 cartridges to the fork sliders. The GP20 cartridges are built to order so we valve and spring them to suit your rider weight, what you use the bike for and to suit the weight of the bike. They have springs, rebound damping and compression damping in both legs and are externally adjustable for rebound damping. The GP20 cartridges cost £365.00 + V.A.T per pair

To fit the GP20 cartridges you need to machine and modify one of the fork sliders. Because the fork does not having damping originally, there is no hole in the bottom of the fork to accept a cartridge. To machine a hole in the bottom slider costs £80.00 + V.A.T. To service the forks with new seals and fit the GP20 cartridges to the Ducati sliders cost an extra £140.00 + V.A.T.

The total cost to fit the GP20 cartridges to the Monster 796 fork sliders is £585.00 + V.A.T per pair of forks.
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