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many thanks guys as always some good rounded food for thought , " Flip " on the button for setting up bars and control's , " Luddite " always got good advice * ) but thank you ALL rollo22 stopintime ,Chris p , Doggy , Holty * ) will have a play around and if no joy will probably go for the EVO risers , thanks again here's looking for the sunny long days soon , cheers vince .
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